Multiple UFO's spotted over moon via telescope, page 5

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reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 04:12 PM by elevenaugust

For a better view of the objects movements, I've created this stabilized version:

YouTube Link

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reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 05:50 PM by masta12d

Bummer, 5 pages in and no one can analyze this video?

It was stated already but this object is over and above in terms of WoW'ness therefore highly doubtful. Aside from wanting to believe I have my own experience as a reminder. But you can't help but stop and wonder how is it that after all these years of intense "investigations" have there ever been definitive proof? But then again I suppose I've seen definitive proof several times more or less. Plus I think there has been proof showing direct involvement of our own government doing horrendous things like JFK, OKC bombing, 911, et al and still not accepted as truth. If we can't strip away the lies of more planetary level then surely they can keep this hush hush.

reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 11:59 PM by Camperguy

How in the hell did weather ballons get on the moon

Bill

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 03:12 AM by Biigs

reply to post by masta12d

Well just using rough estimates, compared to speeds observed of UFOs on earth, the 'UFO' in this video would have to be not only 'huge' but also moving an a quite insane speed to be able to been seen from earth and cover that visible distance.

The moon is pretty big and very far away, if we look at some numbers for a moment:
3,475 kilometers diameter (27% the size of earth)
384,400 kilometers from earth (30 times the earths diameter, away)

The 'UFO' moves about a quarter to half way across the moon (lets assume its very close to the moon but not on it, so lets use a quarter) in about 5 seconds which would make its rough speed guesstimate (868km / 5 = 173km/s). Compared to observed speeds of UFO on earth, that puts it in the region of (lets say 3km/h (2000mph, mach 3) 173km/s * 60 = 10,380km/h) which is 3,460 times faster than mach 3.....

Now lets do a rough guesstimate of size, being viable on the moon at this distance of 384,400km and the moons diameter being 3,475km would place the 'UFO' somewhere in the region of, lets say its 0.5% of the size of the moon (total random guess here size i dont know how to work this bit out), 3475km / 100 * 0.5 = 17km. even if we said it was 0.1% the size of the moon (1000x smaller) it would work out to be 3.4km in size. Thats insanely huge by the way, and moving at speeds like that highly implausible.

Even if im totally off in my guesstimates, it still puts this at larger than anything ever spotted anywhere ever. So there we go some sort of rationalization to say that this is likely another fake - plus it just looks fake

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reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 03:22 AM by zoomer72

My 2 cents

i dont believe it is a insect or a bird , it would be illuminated all the time,but this anomaly seems to reflect sunlight about the same time it emerges from dark side of the moon so that makes me think it is not terrestial origin and seems like it actually is near moon, and satellites dont do that kind of maneuvers ,atleast not that fast! the wake the thing leaves when it accelerates towards bottom of picture is interesting.
Could be cgi but but im not so sure about that at this point... Good video

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 03:53 AM by Strattos

There’s far too many variations in this video to tabulate a definite conclusion. We don’t know the distance of said object(s) and therefore cannot calculate speed. Size is also an important matter.

Compelling video none-the-less, no smoking-gun however.

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 07:52 AM by SomethinWicKd

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by SomethinWicKd
Wow.. that's very interesting video.. Thanks for the link!

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Thanks you Sir.. a STAR Returned as compensation!!

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 08:50 AM by Speckle

This comes just after Nasa released www.space.com... .. which one is faker

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 09:04 AM by gortex

reply to post by Speckle

This comes just after Nasa released www.space.com... .. which one is faker

What does one have to do with the other

To answer your question the OP video is faker because it has no provenance where as the report on space.com is backed by science

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 01:45 PM by cprnicus

Interesting vid. I have seen similar on YouTube also. What I find intriguing is that alot of them seem to be in focus in relation to the moon as opposed to a terrestrial object like bugs or air fluff drifting past the lens. They also tend to play follow-the-leader type maneuvering tactics fairly precisely. As for size of the objects, distance is the key factor missing. However by using the focus factor of the lens I'd say it is much closer to the moon and probably pretty damned big in comparison to any " know man made " space capable craft. But I do believe that is irrelevant when considering what advanced capabilities an alien species may have in regards to size of their craft. Why not a mile wide or two? The fact that more amateur astronomers are seeing these anomalies is notable..

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 05:42 PM by Twine

The "sharp turns" in the video are really evidence of this being a hoax, rather than evidence of "intelligent control". First off think of Biigs's calculation that the craft is probably somewhere on the order of 20km across. at 0:37 the craft makes a very sharp turn. It had been traveling what looks like 1/20th the circumference of the moon in a second, and after the turn was travelling at about 1/10th of the circumference (just ballpark estimates, might be 1/10th to 10* my guess). The circumference of the moon is about 10900km. A 20th of that is about 550km and a 10th of that is about 1090km. So the craft makes a greater than 90 degree turn from 550km/s to 1090km/s in less than a tenth of a second (the turn appears to be instantaneous). Assume it's a 90 degree turn to make things a bit simpler (keep in mind this lowers the acceleration we calculate). The acceleration is then sqrt(550^2 + 1090^2)/0.1 kilometres per second squared.

That's 12209000 metres per second squared of acceleration. To put it into perspective, that is 1245816 times the force of gravity at Earth's surface. Life could not sustain itself at these accelerations, nor could any reasonable spacecraft that is 17 kilometres across. And even if it could, why would you want to? Any "intelligent" race would use more optimal paths. It seems to me that if this were to be a space craft, we're seeing "idiotic control". There's no reason why the acceleration should not be smooth rather than happen over a fraction of a second.

But of course, the burden of proof isn't on the skeptic.

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 08:31 PM by sean

Thought I would post again on the footage. Viewing the moon close up like that it's very hazy and difficult to keep into focus and track at the same time. Unless you have a very expensive setup you have to move the telescope all the time by hand. By the looks of it it was filmed through a lot of smog or a low harvest moon plus you're viewing through solar wind like heat waves that alter the image somewhat.

reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 08:47 PM by blackcube

My vote is for an insect, or pollen like object. Spacecraft in moon? No, sorry. I don't buy it.

reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 03:43 PM by AutOmatIc

YouTube Link

(the above video is a fake that I made with After Effects and some moon footage)

Just add a bit of blur, a "vapor trail" ...there you go!
I could have spent more time blending the overlay to match the original footage's resolution but meh it was for demonstration purposes only. Also could animate the path of the "UFOs" to make them do all sorts of odd movements such as right angle turns etc...not that difficult.

Hoax IMHO.

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reply posted on 17-1-2013 @ 05:05 PM by Dwel13R

I just typed for fifteen minutes, _javascript error made what I typed go away? Not typing it out again. No delete button.

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reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 01:18 AM by ChehystPewpur

reply to post by ninetysixufo

op i just wanted to tell you that this footage is beautiful. there is no denying that something is there. the only thing it is not is a waste of time! ive got a pretty decent telescope and on a few very rare occasion ive spotted something whizzing by but never really know if its just my eyes which rarely play tricks on me or if it was indeed something. but after viewing this maybe i should trust them a little bit more....

reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 03:43 AM by skido

reply to post by ninetysixufo

When we look at planets or the moon through a telescope the objects tend to move away from the field of vision fairly quickly, especially when the magnification is large. Modern telescopes have a motor to track the objects and keep them in the field of view by syncing with the objects movement. My guess is that this video is taken through such a telescope with an object lock-in.

Assuming this, any airborne object between the moon & telescope (in the earth's atmosphere) would tend to move fairly quickly across the moon's face due to the relative motion of the telescope's sweep with respect to the earth's surface.

- skido

reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 09:40 AM by Baddogma

reply to post by ninetysixufo

The "object" just happens to stay in the frame of the slow scan of the moon by the camera/telescope by pulling a 100 degree turn?

I vote cgi, for what it's worth.

reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 03:30 PM by NateHatred

Originally posted by Baddogma
reply to post by ninetysixufo

The "object" just happens to stay in the frame of the slow scan of the moon by the camera/telescope by pulling a 100 degree turn?

I vote cgi, for what it's worth.

this, youtube is making a joke out of skywatchers.
if they are not doing this they make some doom monger prophecy and post here which kills the rest of the site. what happened to the good old days of conspiratorial websites?

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