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The man holding the knife in DaVinci's rendering of his secco fresco for Il Cenacolo ('the last Supper') is R. Shimeon bar Yonah (aka 'Simon bar
Jonah' = Simon son of Jonah aka 'haKephah' = the 'rock' or in Greek: ho 'Petros', hence 'Peter' ) - he is the same person who is pointing with his
OTHER hand to the other side of the table accusingly to one of the disciples as he whispers to one of the 'benei Regesh' i.e. sons of thunder, in this
case, R. Yohanon bar Zavdai (i.e. John son of Zebedee), brother of Yakkov bar Zavdai (=james son of Zebedee) whose bright satin green tunic has all
but flaked off, alas !
Here is a digital rendition of the sketch by DaVinci himself for Shimeon's (i.e. Peter's) odd position holding the knife (although Luke chapter
22:35ff said 'SWORD') in the Queen's Royal Collection, London :
see the 14th Digital Image down on this list : www.alaintruong.com...
Also here is the famous (slightly smaller than the original 15 ' x 30' , and painted on canvas in oil) hanging in the Tongerlo Abbey's Davinci Museum
in Tongerlo, Belgium -
This very fine and quite detailed Copy (c. 1510 - check out 'James the Greater's satin Green Tunic for a taste of what we've lost by all the flaking
over the centuries !) was thought to have been painted by some of DaVinci's own students - and painted closely from the original - executed apparently
while DaVinci was still alive - and there is some debate whether he actually touched it up in places - though there are some changes here and there
(not unlike DaVinci who often made copies - with slight changes e.g. see the two versions of the Madonna of the Rocks)
NB: The Tongerlo Copy of the Last Supper shows a DIFFERENT set of tapestries (apparently the original ones in the fresco in Milan are apparently
copies of the tapestries that actually used to hang in the Refectory (Dining Hall) of the Santa Maria delle Grazie Monastery where the original
Davinci secco fresco is located - as if R. Yehoshua bar Yosef (Greek ho 'Iesous') was there eating with them ... another cute trick of Leonardo's no
But a close look at the Tongerlo Abbey Belgium Copy of Davinci's Il Cenacolo ('the last supper') shows how much detail (especially in the beautiful
rendering of the fabrics on all the colourful disciples' tunics etc.) was apparently in the original - and now alas lost forever due to mildew,
bacteria, fungus, all those rock throwing French Soldiers of Napoleon, the Allied Bombing of 1943, all the gradual and permanent flaking off of the
original pigments etc. and other damaging effects of moisture/wear/tear over time..
Any reconstruction of the original would have to take the details of theTongerlo Copy into account - so make sure you consult this Copy if you want to
find any further 'Clues' as to what might have been in the painting (secco fresco) originally...
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