Alex Jones is the ultimate strawman, page 5

reply to post by bknapple32

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and aj and you destroy the argument by calling people morons and idiots. It's immature and rude. Who wants to listen to an immature rude person.

Alex Jones has a weird cult of personality around him similar to the one Ron Paul and Barack Obama had. They get extremely angry when you even slightly criticize their leader.

They are the biggest sheep around yet love to tell everyone else that they need to "wake up".

reply to post by WaterBottle

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Hmmmm, I have been listening to AJ since 9/11 and he has really woken me up to tons of things. His show used to be better when he didn't rant so much and had better guests on but what he said really pulled me out of the matrix. I have see stuff he said, where at the time I thought that it was just crazy, and then it comes true. Not always in 6 months but sometimes takes as long as 6 years, but does happen. I am not from USA, but seeing how things are there and what he had to say in general made me look at my own government with new eyes and see what is going on in my own country and the corruption here is astounding.

I have to admit though, as time has gone one, and he always was one for saying he doesn't want violence, I noticed that even though he said that, his rants and what he says has become more and more suggestive to people to start a revolution. Now this could be because as the NWO is getting more of a grip and closer to their end goal and he sees this and thinks that revolution is the only way out and so he has had to change tactic or it could be he is controlled opposition and the goal was always to start a revolution so that marshal law could be ushered in. I have wondered about this for a while now. Also it could be conceived that his films / predictions could be in itself predictive programming in a way.

However, having looked at the information he gives us, he does get a lot of things out that otherwise would not be heard of. I guess this is why I found the pro-gun rally or whatever it was called video quite strange, because he really does seem to be just disrupting things so they could not be heard, even though they were talking about what he says he is in agreement with and is at present going on about it daily. The only other thing I can think of, that is not him being a government disruptor, would be that he went there to show the 'new group' how protesting is done and to kind of take over and be the big 'I am' and be center stage through ego.

I guess we just all have to be suspicious of anyone telling us anything and just take what they give us and do some checking out on our own. That way we can pick out the real bits and trash the rest.

reply to post by bknapple32

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In all honestly i have lost all respect for AJ since he went on PM. there is nothing that he says that from this point forward that will not be subjectated to the "crazy talk"

reply to post by WaterBottle

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They make all their money through advertising... like Alex Jones

Your argument makes no sense.

Their argument makes perfect sense as there is a stark difference between the advertising revenue AJ gets, and that of just about any other service or product that is ad revenue based.

The products that buy airtime (sponsors) on his site and shows are selling products related to the conspiracies AJ is selling, for lack of a better term.

The government is poisoning the water.
Buy this reverse osmosis purifier
The government is imploding the monetary system
Invest in this gold and silver
The government is about to declare martial law
Buy this survival kit
The government is poisoning all your food at the seed level
Buy these seed kits
The government is going to take your guns away
Take this training course and get a free hand gun (I SAW THIS MYSELF)

So again, how exactly isn't that fear mongering?

How about this huff'post interview? You know, the one that ended with them cutting away as Alex literally, literally, SCREAMS "you're all in danger!!!!!"

He's setting you up for a massive fail, and you can't claim ignorance of it for much longer

ETA: I'm going with controlled opposition. While I do question some of his motives, and no one who has actually listened to this guy on a regular basis can deny there have been some questionable things over the years.......

I'm thinking that he's ignorant or willfully ignorant of the fact that he is now, and has been for some time, being used as a tool against us all.

These little tirades and rants do not bring anyone to "our" side, it pushes them away, while inciting those who have already bought into him hook line and sinker. It's a recipe for disaster.

You've got a poster child for:
gun control
forced mental health checks
restrictions on the internet and other media

all rolled into 1 guy. Think about the dominoes being set up in a line waiting to be tipped, be careful that you aren't one of them.

I'll make a prediction right here and now. This time, in say, 2 or 3 years, all of you defending Alex Jones will have distanced yourselves from him, and to an extent, will be as embarrassed about following him as much as some of us already are now.

reply to post by CthulhuMythos

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"Martial Law" (after Mars, the God of War, not "Marshall" as in western territory sheriff). Martial Law would be an excuse to suspend the Constitution (including the Second Amendment), would it not? A revolution against the government would be an excuse to declare Martial Law, would it not? Hmmmmm (something to think about).

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by Human_Alien

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Hmmmm, but Icke has got it all figured out, huh?

Never said that.

When someone needs to insert a conclusion like you just did, it makes their argument much weaker.


David Icke (much like the late Bill Cooper) shares his findings whether they are inanimate, witnesses or theories.

Alex Jones shares fear.

A government within the government is nothing new. There are layers so deep that they are unapproachable.
So, is there a plan for a one-world government? Sure. Why not. Could be. Who knows. And we shouldn't care because it won't happen anytime soon.
Don't like it? Start building a missile to Mars and start your own government.

I am not saying to be completely complacent. But I am saying stop being so concerned.

Any idiot can spread fear. That's what many religions are based on. If they scare enough people enough times, they'll look to them for protection and guidance (and donations as a way of gratitude. Tithing, if you will)

Fear is a knee-jerk reaction us mortals possess. Because let's face it, we were born with amnesia. We don't know where we came from. We don't know what our purpose is. And we don't know where we're going at the end. So we are innately filled with suspicion. So triggering that is easy. However, finding comfort and solace is much harder.

reply to post by phishyblankwaters

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Their argument makes perfect sense as there is a stark difference between the advertising revenue AJ gets, and that of just about any other service or product that is ad revenue based.

Not really. Alex Jones net worth is more than 90% of all Americans. He makes great money compared to nearly everyone else. He might not be making Limbaugh amounts, but it is still good. More money than he could make in the working world with his community college degree.

I don't have a problem with him making money off his show, that's not my issue with him. My issue is that he spews dis-info on a near daily basis and makes the conspiracy community look like raving lunatics. I just don't get why people say "his movies/radio are free argument" when he's clearly making great money off the advertising and "money bombs".

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I'll make a prediction right here and now. This time, in say, 2 or 3 years, all of you defending Alex Jones will have distanced yourselves from him, and to an extent, will be as embarrassed about following him as much as some of us already are now.

I agree, or at least I hope so.

reply to post by CthulhuMythos

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You could have got all that just by reading William Blum's "Rogue State" and not had to endure Jone's ranty tirades. .

reply to post by CthulhuMythos

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I guess this is why I found the pro-gun rally or whatever it was called video quite strange, because he really does seem to be just disrupting things so they could not be heard, even though they were talking about what he says he is in agreement with

Well, here's AJ being a agent provocateur at another protest, then lying about it on his show again..

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