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Originally posted by Panic2k11
reply to post by Logarock
I think the real motive, the end aim of government control of health care is not to get out form under the burdens of profitablity. It is a high hope that taking the profit form health care and turning health care into a state apparatus is going to lend to real efficiency.
I think you are specifically referring to the US system. In the US it is not really a nationalization (taking from the private sector to put them under state control) it is simply restructuring of how private organizations manage the heath market-space. The issue only makes sense when you look on the profit versus the quality of service in the US in terms of the general population, it is abysmal and becoming unsupportable in the areas that the private sector drains profits directly from the state......
Originally posted by megax5000
Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by megax5000
The U.S. under Obama's oppressive socialist regime comes in at a fairly distant no. 10. If only Obama would learn more from one of the paragons of right wing governments, like Canada.
Seriously, how does stuff like this get out to print? Doesn't Heritage have at least ONE proofreader who would point out one of the problems with this?
There are close to TWO HUNDRED countries in the world and yoiu claim the US is a "fairly distant 10"??????
Pretty sure he meant "relatively" distant. I mean, you would think the U.S. is the freest country ever, but only to come up no. 10? That's pretty bad.
Originally posted by AngryCymraeg
I'm British and my wife's American. We live in London. When we bought our house and moved in together she exerted herself a bit too much and woke up one morning telling me that something had gone crunch in her back and that she needed to go to hospital as her legs were tingling. I drove her straight there, we saw a doctor almost straight away and she was diagnosed as having pulled a muscle, given painkillers and told to take a week off work. She was fine. How much did we pay? About £10 for the painkillers I think. That's what I love about the NHS. You get treated. And you don't pay through the nose. Because there's a safety blanket around you.
The government gets the health care system so flush with money over the years, diving up costs, making it very profitable and now wants talk like this.
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by Libertygal
Do a google search and youll find plenty of examples of people being turned away after the hospitals find out they are uninsured, gun shot and stabbing victims, pregnant women whos babies went on to die.
Turned away from hospitals
Or are these stories just lies and propaganda?
Originally posted by Logarock
Ok two words Medi-Cal.
It is illegal to refuse *anyone* treatment in the US that goes to a hospital, regardless of their ability to pay. If you are crititcally injured, you are treated right then and there, and immediate applications are made, based on ability to pay, age, etc., to Medicare and Medicaid.