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I'm certainly not trying to discredit YOU, just the argument that gun ownership is about protection form tyranny... it's BS. Have your guns you're a free citizen... for now.
There is no question in my mind as to why the government wants to take our guns, as I said before, free men own guns, slaves don't. They want a nation of slaves
Originally posted by Thracian
This ad is for government disarm as well? How will that work..edit on 13-1-2013 by Thracian because: (no reason given)
Where was the revolution when they passed an assault weapons ban in 1994?
Yeah that's what I thought.
This board is full of arm chair commandos that will not do a single thing when push comes to shove. The ones that thump their chest while waiving their guns are the first ones that are going to curl up in the corner and give up their guns without much of a fight.
Originally posted by MajorKarma
Ask a Native American aka the American Indians what comes next after disarming the American People; ask the Native Americans what happens when you trust the Federal Government...
There are those who believe that the government should have the monopoly on violence; that the government should be the only one armed, and that we should trust the government to protect us. There is just one little tiny problem with that, and that is that the gang of armed men doing the killing and the kidnapping usually IS the government.
It is the governments of the world who have initiated the genocides, the ethnic cleansings, the great mass murders. It's the governments that have systematically exterminated political dissidents. It's the governments who have built the concentration camps and the secret prisons.
It's the governments that have always been behind the worst crimes committed against humanity. Human governments have repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be the most bloodthirsty, ruthless, and corrupt organizations on earth. Even the sickest serial killers have nothing on the state.
And yet some would entrust them with the absolute power of life and death over you and your family. That's what is at stake when you give the government the monopoly on violence, because when the people have no defense the government has no boundaries.
The REAL Mass Murderers
"...the tragic fact is that disarming victims leads to great bloodshed. I'm referring to the millions of people who died at the hands of their government over the past century. Most of these mass murders were preceded by a cynical and calculating "gun control" program, leading to eventual disarmament. Genocide followed soon thereafter."
Leave Mass Murder to the Professionals
Where was the revolution when they passed an assault weapons ban in 1994
So it's only because of the "radical left" that you want to take up arms?
The patriot act passed when the neo-cons were occupying the white house, but I guess as long as it isn't the evil liberal democrats you're okay with it right?
I don't support any gun ban, I support enforcing the current laws we have.
Ya know sea....I'm glad that we have found a topic of discussion we can agree on 100%...I usually disagree with you on the Iran/Israel stance but Its a nice change of pace to have something we agree upon.
great thread simple premise, simple logic and common sense...SnF!!
"GUN - IGNORANTS"
The world is much more connected by the net and much more aware (post 9-11) than it was in even 1994.
And too a 'revolution' may not be happening exactly as expected, (on the outside) there are many other ways of 'revolting' other than the obvious armed confrontation. For now I still see information working to reach 'critical mass' first perhaps it will be like the hundredth monkey scenario playing out.
Originally posted by Vascopolis
"GUN - IGNORANTS"reply to post by seabag
I AM TIRED OF BEING CALLED NAMES
Today, I have been called a "Gun Nut", "Gun Freak", a "Scared Gun Hugger" etc.
Mostly because we seem to be above pre-pubescent name calling, we have refrained and kept our DIGNITY...
HOWEVER, i think we could be dignified and accurate as well if we constantly refered BACK to them as
"GUN - IGNORANTS"
Originally posted by seabag
I think it is time to confiscate guns in America….at least from a certain group of Americans.
Let’s put this situation into perspective. If the intention of stronger gun control is to make the country (and the world) a safer place then government is the obvious place to start, right? If anyone needs to be disarmed it’s the most dangerous, murderous group in the world that has the most advanced weapons and the most blood on its hands…the US government and the military industrial complex.
Law abiding citizens don’t kill innocent people with guns…tyrannical governments and lunatics do. Aren’t those the people who should be disarmed? Do we want guns in the hands of people with a record of violence a mile long? Do we want guns in the hands of narcissistic thugs who kill innocent civilians out of greed? I prefer guns in the hands of honest, hard-working people whose only intention is self-preservation. Isn’t that what America’s founding fathers had in mind? Weren’t we warned about this potential threat?
Is it a coincidence that the most heavily armed, violent group in the world wants to take away your right to self-defense? What might their intentions be??
If guns aren’t an effective crime deterrent and good method of self-preservation then why does the government use them?
Let’s be honest…if you were a bad guy, which sign would you rather see?
I think I know which sign the government wants to see…the question is WHY?