US government ultimate goal...do you know what is? I don't...

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posted on Jan, 14 2013 @ 08:01 PM
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reply to post by signalfire
 


I enjoyed the those films a few years ago, even though some of the information is historically incorrect...it made for a good watch; until they started becoming cult like, with an idealistic push. Like communism it looks good on paper but it's not for me.




posted on Jan, 14 2013 @ 08:10 PM
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No I am not new...but either somethings can be logical, somethings can be rational, still other things can be both logical and irrational...it seems when it is pure logic there is no room for rationality, and when there is no room for rationality there is no room for logic that leads to irrationality...so a balance is best struck between the two. I prefer the balance; pure logic leads to ultimatums and leaves little room for expansion of knowledge...it either is or isn't. Pure rationality/emotions has little room for logic.

Logic is rigid saying a door can either open or close; there is no in between...when balanced with rationality; it states remove the door and there lay your in between.



posted on Jan, 14 2013 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
Does the US government have a defined goal; that it wants to move towards?


Self-destruction.



posted on Jan, 14 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by jimmiec
I think this quote gives a hint of what their agenda is. I think it has become the main goal of the left. After that they can do as they like.

“Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.”

Sarah Brady quote


That's the problem folks, that someone can actually even come out and say that. Truth, honor and common sense just don't matter any more. How can anything favorable survive in such a environment? .



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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Corporations are a threat our government is the people, we need to support them bye having # change, and forcing a change in the system!



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by ausername

Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
Does the US government have a defined goal; that it wants to move towards?


Self-destruction.



Lmfao could not have said it better my self



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 04:15 AM
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it all begins in the 1740's with amshel rothschilds father who sent illuminati spies to infiltrate the freemasons most influential lodges to prepare for the coming marriage of the illuminati and the freemasons.

He died before he could complete the task and left his son to continue the work of the three bloodlines of attaing the three omns of god.

In 1776 the marrige of the illuminati and masons took place under the command of Amshel Rothschild. After the marriage and upon returning home...Francois Henri de Virieu said, "I will not confide them to you. I can only tell you that all this is very much more serious than you think. The conspiracy which is being woven is so well thought out, that it will be, so to speak, impossible for both the French and British Royal Monarchy and the Church of Rome to escape it."

u want more ask but look it up first.

on psn. took 30 mins to respond.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 08:05 AM
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Do you think this "marriage" plot arose during or because of the Austro-Russian/Turkish War of 1735–1739?



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 08:18 AM
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much like tartarus in masamune shirows appleseed , the world government is a sentient AI developed to control the world ! A bridge between human and bioroid /cyborg
edit on 15-1-2013 by sapien82 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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Is that the Japanese story considered to be the world's first novel? If it is I simply recall a man that was never quite happy with is wives/lovers and kept jumping ship for a new one, and was perpetually unhappy. I am not exactly sure what any of that has to do with cyborgs and world government...perhaps that's what you edited out?



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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The goal of a Government is to govern.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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One world government?
How would they make it a republic? Can they expand OUR constitution to the world?
Anything ,ANY OTHER form of government is not acceptable.I will not surrender to socialism regardless of how pretty a package it's wrapped in.We have lost THOUSANDS against that type of system. And I have seen what happens when 1 man has the rules as have any one else who reads history(even the conspiratory models)that is the big deal with rifles and mags. We need those to keep our own in check.Not to mention this POTUs is currently prosicuting wars without legal consent in SECRET.



posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
The goal of a Government is to govern.


Except when that government is so corrupt that it cannot restrain and/or govern itself.

So influenced and controlled by outside entities and elites that it no longer represents the people it was empowered to govern.




posted on Jan, 15 2013 @ 07:07 PM
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I cannot claim anything like that, but if I had to guess yes.

To continue...

In 1776 amshel Rothschild got word from his British military illuminated Freemasons that the crown was going for one more push for america. With this information he told his french military spys what they were doing, he instructed them to gather the weapons they had made for america for this battle under masonic orders and used french royal bankroll to make them, and to alert The masons installed in America. GW told paul revere to gather the troops. He did and meet the british on the shores where they knew they would dock, and decimated them almost completely before they even set foot on land.

We now have the Masonic over throw of the British Crown in America. The British learned how much power The masons welded and stopped the oppression tyranny and over taxation of the "common wealth", even if it was not called that then.

In 1786 you have the masonic over throw of the french royal family.

Then in the late 1700 you have the papel order to call off inquisitions of the illuminati freemasons knights templar and possible massonic spies within opus dia. All charges of hairacy
where dropped. Oppression by the church ceased. And countries freed.

The freed countries slowly had masonic republics or republications of the roman empire was installed, and roman law came back into the fold in full force.

For 100 year they where almost completely silent and peace rained world wide.


To be continued.



posted on Jan, 18 2013 @ 09:10 AM
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How sad it makes me having to read your comment but I agree with every word you said.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 07:36 AM
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There's a paradox in there; "we did not inherit this earth from our ancestors...we are borrowing it from our children." We are expected to pick up and tow the line our ancestors handed off to us, in towing that line and it's weight; we drag the negative past with us; fallout from wars; racism, sexism, nationalism, etc. when we do this we aren't actually borrowing; we are outright stealing it; by making it a far worse place than it was before...simply because there is a line that does not mean it needs towing.

The towing continues the weight and baggage grows; as soon as one sets it down another picks it up. Over time it keeps growing and compounding making things worse and worse...it would be nice to say society is getting better but it doesn't appear to be, perhaps it's the same as always; just less and less people are suppressing themselves? If that's the case it would make sense as to why things are spiraling...mindless self indulgence perhaps? Now I am wondering if that is a bad thing or a good thing? For a civilized society...where everyone is traditionally held in line by social norms; self indulgence comes off as a bad thing.

Seems I landed in a paradox of my own and really need to ponder that one.



posted on Jan, 20 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
 


Seems I landed in a paradox of my own and really need to ponder that one.


That sounds very profound but I will need more help from you to understand your analogy.

What you made me think about is the tremendous deficit that many countries have nowadays. That is stealing, as you correctly pointed out, from our children. Governments do it because they do NOT represent the interest of the people, or the people's children, but first - nature's instinct is that - humans look out first for themselves, i.e. the politicians themselves.

We elect them, and they represent us AFTER thinking about their own benefit. Still wonder why electing somebody else doesn't change the dynamic?



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 06:17 AM
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My answer would unfortunately, derail the thread off of topic...so I've decided to create a new thread in the appropriate forum for the response. Here is the link for it: New thread for response



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by BigBrotherDarkness
 

I've decided to create a new thread in the appropriate forum for the response.
I don't really know what to add to your new thread but I wish you good luck with it.



posted on Jan, 22 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Thank you; I hope you don't mind that I gave you credit for the spark that completed a contemplation I had not yet bothered to consider ripe since the last post. It seems no one is really interested, but there's guns and corruption and many far important philosophical things to be concerned with, than some ramblings about my shift from one age to another relativity speaking. The line drawn between youth and old is very evident in my current life experience having hit middle age.

Trying to be understanding of the experience; in a balance instead of becoming a crotchety codger...that always starts out conversations with "In my day"


Politics and news has suddenly become more important than they ever were before





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