Why can I 'sense' something like a wall or door when i am in complete darkness?, page 1


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Topic started on 13-1-2013 @ 12:42 AM by wulff
I am not sure where to put this post but I have searched the internet and haven't found an answer so I thought perhaps others have experienced what I have.
Every since I was a small child I have been able to sense the presence of anything if it is near me even in pitch black.
I can be sound asleep in a totally dark room and wake up and know I am about a foot from the wall (I can tell if I am facing the wall or the open room) I can sense it even if my eyes are closed.
I have never mentioned this to anyone before.
Just last night I got up to go to the toilet and was sleeping in our computer room that even has Styrofoam over the windows to keep out all light for a home theater projector. The door to the bathroom is always left open but as I moved towards it in the pitch black room, I 'felt the door's presence' when I was about 1 foot away and stopped and I am so used to it I just wondered as I reached out to open it "wonder why the door is closed part way"
It's not my breathing noise that I subconsciously hear 'bouncing off it' as the room is so noisy with a loud fan you can't hear anything else! (I like the fan noise to sleep).
I first remember this when I was very young and thought it was completely the norm and maybe it is, but the fact that I have never walked into a door or wall in the dark makes me wonder.
Is this normal Does anyone else have this ability
To describe it is very hard, it is almost like I can feel a solid dark mass near me (like I said, even with my eyes closed) so I am hoping others know what I am talking about.
By the way, as a lot on here knows I am very skeptical about the paranormal and my sister who died a few years ago said she saw spirits that manifested to her and said she would see and communicate with spirits that 'looked like' family and friends that was dead but she told me they were 'familiar spirits' and not "real ghosts".
I only mention my sister's experiences to say that I don't have the same abilities.
What do you guys and gals think
(Sorry, about the punctuation as I just noticed my 'question mark' isn't showing up, must need new keyboard!)
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reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 01:18 AM by Wertdagf
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Maybe you obsessivly check for an object.

then you only remember when your right and not when your wrong.


reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 01:50 AM by Raxoxane
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Hi and snap! :-D when i was a kid,i would sometimes pretend i was blind,and walk around with my eyes closed to see how well i could manage.Ive always felt the close proximity of walls and furniture too.More disturbingly,i couldnt fall asleep in the dark in a certain room in our house.When my adoptive mother's adult son left to live in an apartment,i was delighted to have his room,but i could Not sleep with the light off in there.I would soon feel a presence looming over me,as real as a person's physical presence.That house was actually full of spirits,and my old bedroom+the kitchen were the only places i felt remotely comfortable,though never 100%.The house was built over a small very old graveyard,right next to an old deconsecrated church.My father found an antique buried glass bottle,those with an elliptical shaped bottom, while working in his veg garden,and he once unearthed a human skull.I digress but yeah i used to have that too,when i was a kid.And to this day,i sense a present spirit/entity,its the same as when you feel a real person watching you,only i always get a really weird sensation in my throat to go with it.


reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 05:01 AM by _damon
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do you still feel in the dark if there are no sounds/noises at all? Or do you need to make a noise like clicking? I can only guess you are naturally disposed toward echolocation. Seeing with sounds, i mean "echo". Which is used by some humans especially blind people. human echolocation


reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 02:30 PM by schuyler
First of all, it's unlikely you are in "total darkness" and you are not completely devoid of "night vision," though it takes about a half hour in darkness to build up. The chemical that does this is called "Visual Purple." You might test this out. When you first go to bed and the lights are freshly out, you can't see worth beans, but if you get up in the middle of the night, when it is at its darkest, you can make out a sufficient number of shadows not to bump into things, besides which, you know there are obstacles in your path it would be best to avoid. So the first issue is that it's not really 100% dark, and after awhile your eyes are going to take advantage of every spec of ambient light there is in the room to help you out. not as good as a cat, but not totally bereft of vision either.

Second, in terms of sensing walls and doors, there is a temperature variation close to them you may be feeling. It's either going to be a tiny bit colder or a tiny bit warmer closer to a wall. With doors you are going to feel and pressure differential due to slight drafts beneath the door itself. There is always air movement, however slight, and it doesn't take much to feel those, especially without your full sight available to you, so your other senses are heightened to compensate.

Third, any sounds you make or which are in the house, will echo differently close to a wall or door. Even if you are barefoot on a carpet, you're still breathing. A hot water heater, a refrigerator, or a furnace are background noises, but they sound differently depending on where you are. Your ears are super-sensitive when you can't see well, and you have two, so you can locate where a sound is coming from just by turning your head and measuring the variation. Whether you hear the air vents and duct work from the furnace or the distant hum of a fridge. you know right where they are and what they should sound like at any given place.

I know it may seem like you don't have much working for you when it is dark and quiet, but you have a lot more skills available to you than you may think. After all, you may not know trigonometry, but you can still catch a ball. Your body knows trig, even if you do not.
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reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 06:12 AM by Briles1207
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This is spot on.

You have seen the blind kid who uses echo-location by "clicking" and noting the sound and frequency of the echo to determine an object (even the size and shape)

What you experience is similar, but instead of sound, it is the change in air pressure and density on approach to a solid object that alerts you.

Here is a link to the inspirational kid.

www.youtube.com...


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 07:26 AM by InhaleExhale
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Is this normal Does anyone else have this ability


Yes, its called perception, we all perceive a little differently but relatively in-sync so as to see the same world around us. Your sister( my condolences ) maybe was able to perceive which most can not.

Some of your examples gave me a bit of a giggle such as



I can be sound asleep in a totally dark room and wake up and know I am about a foot from the wall


How many times have you woken and found you fell asleep somewhere else and then knew exactly where and what direction your in?

in other words,
When you say "sound asleep in a totally dark room and wake up and know I am about a foot from the wall" is it the same bed you went to sleep in?

Thanks for sharing


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 07:43 AM by St Udio
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you are getting into the realm of abilities that the unknown 'cave painters' had ...which is an ability for 'internal sight'


the famous French cave paintings were accomplished with no known light source... torches or even glass jars of fireflys were either not possible 30,000 years ago..or there is no evidence of smoke deposits on those pristine caverns from primitive torches or makeshift campfires


try a sensory deprivation situation...i have had strange instances where i 'see' people or objects in complete darkness and blindfolded, forms and shapes but not detailed images can be internally seen by the mind-brain if given enough time (1/2 hr) to relax to the resonance of the place you are situated in....


thanks


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 08:25 PM by wulff
Originally posted by Billie828
I'm enjoying how people are giving explanations when you already ruled them out, proving they didn't actually read the post
Anyways, I do this sometimes, but it's far from infallible. I'm kind of a klutz anyway, so I usually end up tripping over things. (That chair jumped out in front of me, I swear!)


LOL, I was wondering the same thing.. like you said, I have tried to explain it since I was a child and have the same 'sense' no matter where I am. I travel a lot for my job therefore I am in a lot of different hotels so it seems unlikely I have 'memorized' the layout of the room, lol!
When I was trying to debunk this as maybe starlight, etc. I happen to get in at 2:00 AM and knew I was going to sleep in... and although the room I sleep in is very dark (I have blackout drapes for my projector) I put on some of those sleep thingees that covers the eyes and about an hour after i went to bed I had to get rid of the cola I was drinking on the flight (LOL) and got up and I was in one of those 'half-sleeps' so if I was going to run into something I would think this was ideal but I went through several doors one of which was open where if my arms were out it would have gone between them and smacked my nose! But when I got to about 6" or so I 'sensed' it and moved my arm and there was the door! Actually this is what finally prompted me to write this thread to see what you guys thought.
Thanks for everyone's input I like to hear what people think even if they think there is a rational everyday explanation.
I am a big skeptic so it takes a lot for me to finally decide there is something I can't explain through a 'natural' phenomenon.
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