LiveJournal User Turned over to Secret Service for Blog Post

Originally posted by KirstenBaum
www.thethirteenthstep.com...

Well, at least the Blasphemy Police didn't show up at Annie's door. This was such a stupid thing to post to the internet that Annie almost deserves a Darwin Award or a Dumb Crook Award. It's typical of the way the left thinks. It almost sounded like she was describing Marion Barry. When he finally passes on that's probably how they'll find his body.

One might also remember that before the recent Supreme Court decision regarding child pornography, she might have been arrested on those charges.

Originally posted by vincere7
People don't understand that these forums are spidered with key phrases and YOU WILL GET CAUGHT posting inuendos that have to deal with any perceived threats.

To define "perceived threats," recognize that Bush embodies a far-reaching agenda. Disagreement is a threat. ...My own writing criticizes Bush's policies, condemns corporate control of US tax revenues, directions and more. ...Excepting for one - all of my articles on Indymedia 'disappeared' following the FBI shutting down the server. ...the harassment/intimidation stories are coming out now though - here's another, written to this site's membership after a sustained 'silencing' campaign that ended yesterday with a formal notice from msn:

"As you may know, FMD ACTION openly criticizes Bush health policies, condemns corporate control over research funding, and actively promotes Open Access to publicly funded medical and scientific research.

As a result, and like other sites with similar values, FMD ACTION may soon be shut down.

If FMDACTION disappears, please look for us at:
groups.msn.com...

If FMDfaqs gets shut down, we will be found at:
health.groups.yahoo.com...

FMD ACTION provides a public service to people with FMD. The site publicizes and promotes the �FMD cause,� directs diagnosed survivors to active support groups like Global Health Network, and files medical research on FMD. We do not seek or accept donations. However, we cannot stop questionable organizations from using our membership lists for their own mailing lists.

FMDACTION is currently found at:
groups.msn.com...

Sincerely,
The FMDACTION Managers"


.....this, and much more, is all part of the neo-McCarthy package. Enjoy.

1.I feel the USSS should investigate EVERY occurance such as this. SO if a young kid posted on his blog he was going to kill his whole class and blow up his school, this is just his way off letting off steam and the cops should not show up??? yeah, ponder that for a sec...


2. It was a warranted action which would have occured in ANY administration. She was not jailed, charged or groped.

3. "K*** Bush. Pray Bush is ki**ed and Cheney also" was the quote. Did she want to have tea???

4. If a case such as this was not followed up, and something occured, you knuckle heads would be screaming we are not protecting our president. And remember this, he is still the President of the United States of America, not the local Wal-Mart supervisor.

I feel the USSS should investigate EVERY occurance such as this. SO if a young kid posted on his blog he was goingto kill his whole class, the cops should not show up??? yeah, ponder that for a sec...

Originally posted by soficrow
To define "perceived threats," recognize that Bush embodies a far-reaching agenda. Disagreement is a threat. ...My own writing criticizes Bush's policies, condemns corporate control of US tax revenues, directions and more. ...Excepting for one - all of my articles on Indymedia 'disappeared' following the FBI shutting down the server.

Disagreeing on Bush issues may have you stand in a zone two hundred meters from a site where Bush is demonstrating and have your url blocked on google and I agree this is directly opposed to the constitution. However, that is not what was posted. What was posted had to do with perceived threats of a VIOLENT nature, not the political 'ink' of a pen.

The Secret Service and the FBI know the difference, HOWEVER, it is their job and duty to ASSESS any violent statements against the president, as they do not have the liberty of having an opion on the matter as you do - they just have to do their job.

So do not use 'violent statements' to compare with 'political statements' as the two fall into a different realm regardless of your opinion on the matter.

Well freedom of speech obviously protects people from stupid statements too. The USSS checks her questions her and probably walked away thinking "oooo shes in the Twilight Zone". But they did have to investigate it.

Just think, If they had not checked it out and somehow related to her post something did happen to the President. Then everyone on here would be saying "Where were the police? Where were the Secret Service? How could the LET this happen?"

I can't believe I am actually going to say this but I agree, even with you grady. The SS had every right to question her. Once they relised she was no threat they walked. If they had detained or arrested her while still thinking she was no threat then they overstepped the bounds. Basically her right to free speach was not violated. All's they did was question her. Technically she can go back and write it again.

I do want to reiterate though, I by no means support this administration, thier policies and thier wars. I do however support my troops, this country and humanity.

I am neither left or right, I am an American.

I am jmilici and I approved this message.

edit: for edit's sake.

[edit on 28-10-2004 by jmilici]

Originally posted by jmilici
I can't believe I am actually going to say this but I agree, even with you grady

I think most people, if they would actually think about what I write, could agree with much of what I say. I think you're very brave and honorable to actually admit it. I received a U2U from a member who agreed with me, but was afraid to say so on the board and I fully understand why.

When I was in graduate school, I was the victim of a PC vilification campaign by members of my class and their goal was to get me removed from the program, by hook or by crook. They failed, but during those eighteen months, I had many students come up to me to tell me how much they agreed with my views, but they couldn't take the risk of publicly saying so or defending me or my views.

Once, I borrowed a notebook from a classmate to get notes for a class I had missed. I returned it to her while she was having lunch in the UC. I could tell by the reaction of those with whom she was having lunch and her reaction, as well, that I my timing was off and she was going to suffer for it.

When you disagree with conservatives, you are likely to get an appeal to the facts and an appeal to change your views. When you disagree with leftists, they want nothing less than your total destruction. I know. I've been there more than once.

I was searching for more information on this issue and found this:


"We are ordinary Republicans from across the political spectrum -- moderate, conservative, and progressive -- who believe in the sanctity of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. This unites us in our desire to return our country and our party to the traditional values that have been abandoned by the present extremist administration and their exclusionary allies in Congress. We have taken the unusual step of supporting a Democrat, John Kerry, because we believe he more honestly represents these values so vital to the health and well-being of our democracy. On the important issues of foreign policy, fiscal responsibility, tax policy, energy, the environment, media consolidation, civil liberties and trust, history has shown us all too clearly that John Kerry will be a far better steward than the present administration. We believe that all Americans should heed George Washington's wisdom and put country before party."


more at www.republicansforkerry04.org...

Originally posted by Byrd
Y'know, I thought that we were a free society and that things under Bush couldn't have possibly gotten as bad as I thought it might. I'm feeling a little less optomistic after seeing a report on LiveJournal that some pro-Busher took one of her anti-Bush rants and turned it over to the FBI/Secret Service (this is confirmed by others who know the person.)

The Secret Service paid her a visit... and you can read about it here:

a word to the wise
For all my LJ-loving friends, this is a word of warning, a word to the wise, and a word of utter exhaustion after the wringer I've been put through in the last twenty-four hours.

A couple of weeks ago, following the last presidential debate, I said some rather inflammatory things about George W. Bush in a public post in my LJ, done in a satirical style. We laughed, we ranted, we all said some things. I thought it was a fairly harmless (and rather obvious) attempt at humor in the face of annoyance, and while a couple of people were offended, as is typical behavior from me, I saw something shiny and forgot about it, thinking that the whole thing was over and done and nothing else would come of what I said.

I was wrong.

At 9:45 last night, the Secret Service showed up on my mother's front door to talk to me about what I said about the President, as what I said could apparently be misconstrued as a threat to his life.

...continues...
www.livejournal.com...

I have to say that the pro-Bush person who initiated this is a REAL scumbag. I could say other unflattering and inflamatory remarks, but I won't.

I'll let her have the final say here:

HOWEVER.

I want people to be aware that what they say on their LJ can cause problems for them in RL, because I love all of you and I don't wish what happened to me on you. You are more than welcome to discuss this post in your journal, and you are more than welcome to link to it from your journal. If you want to post this in a community, go for it. Hell, if you want to put me on fandom_wank, it's probably not a bad idea. The wankers would have a FIELD DAY with this. I know I would. Please, feel free to make an example out of me. So share this with your friends. Tell them what can happen. It's beneficial to all of us to know that this can happen, and hopefully, it'll prevent something like this from happening again.

you americans hardly live in a democracy....(youve been lied too)

What's with quoting the entire original post and then making a one sentence, sweeping statement without anything to expand upon or back it up. Please give me back the extra 0.2 seconds that this page took to load due to your useless post.

Oh, and www.democratsforbush.com...

Democrats creating fake websites about Republicans voting for Kerry who are actually making fake websites about Democrats voting for Bush.
I feel dizzy.



Edit: Spelling

[edit on 2004/10/29 by wecomeinpeace]

Probably this story is a hoax.




[edit on 10/29/04 by WisdomMaster]

I think they were right to follow it up, she may have just been letting off steam but who knew that when she posted it? Also, she may not have been a threat but some crazy might have read what she put and decided to go and do it.

Just for some stupid # like that? Wait until they stumble over a Immortal Technique website or read his lyrics hahahaha... You know that the government would assassinate him.

i think the boys will like my blog
Blood Money Intelligence .com

Originally posted by moxyone
It is against the law to threaten the life of the president.

satire or no satire.

This has nothing to do with our free society.

I wonder what exactly she posted that was construed as a threat.

That would be the basis for a discussion.

some of you may know this but i dont so i'll ask. how exactly did they find her real home just from a stupid post on a website?

Holy Smokes, we have a winner!

Congrats for bumping a four year old thread.