What was Adam thinking?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Logarock

 

Sour? Adam wasn't deceived, Eve was. Adam chose purposely to join her in her sin.

I heard you the first time....hinty hinty earth to NTT!

His responce to God when asked didnt sound anything like then noble tone you ascribe to it. He certainly didnt step up to the plate. "She did it....and you were the one that gave her to me" would be a good translation.

why because he tried to pass the blame? That doesn't change the fact that he knew what he was doing when he ate the fruit.

Which.....brings into play that he was indeed equally deceived even if only by himself. At any rate whatever his ideas were before, he changed that tune in a hurry when his eyes were opened.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Bullcrap. Bull - freaking - crap!

1 Timothy 2:14 New Living Translation (NLT)

14 And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.

BibleGateway

"God" wanted them to taste the fruit. It was time for them to grow up, to mature, and that was how he did it.

No

No He didn't.

God cannot lie. He told them they could have any tree but that one, otherwise death would be the result.

The tree was a test.

Adam a perfect man, with a perfect mind, failed.

That is why there is pain and suffering and death in this world.

The tree of knowledge

It is the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Bad.

Adam was literally a genius. No man was his equal until Jesus Christ.

The tree did not impart wisdom or intelligence it opened their eyes to imperfection and the knowledge of sin, suffering and human death........

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Logarock

 

Sour? Adam wasn't deceived, Eve was. Adam chose purposely to join her in her sin.

If Adam was aware that Eve had been deceived an he ate the fruit with her, knowing what would happen, he is the greater transgressor, and should bear more of the blame than Eve! He's right up there with the snake, aiding and abetting Eve in her seduction.

Adam should have been the one made to suffer in childbirth and be subservient to Eve, as a result his aiding in her demise, and then blaming her. Why should women be told to obey their husbands, when, in the shadow of Adam's negligence, they deliberately mislead their wives into sin?

Originally posted by windword

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Logarock

 

Sour? Adam wasn't deceived, Eve was. Adam chose purposely to join her in her sin.

If Adam was aware that Eve had been deceived an he ate the fruit with her, knowing what would happen, he is the greater transgressor, and should bear more of the blame than Eve! He's right up there with the snake, aiding and abetting Eve in her seduction.

The first part of this seems right but not the second. I mean one cant really seperate eve from the serpent. Eve clearly was doing the work of the serpent and aiding him in the seduction of her husband.

Heres another thing....Adams eyes were not opened yet but Eves were and yet she went on with the plan. That fact cannot be escaped.

Originally posted by windword

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Logarock

 

Sour? Adam wasn't deceived, Eve was. Adam chose purposely to join her in her sin.

Why should women be told to obey their husbands, when, in the shadow of Adam's negligence, they deliberately mislead their wives into sin?

Thats an easy question. Apparently part of the motivation satan used on her was her role as "help meet". She would be like the gods and wouldnt have to listen to God or Adam anymore.

Not that I am going with this idea that Adam "deliberately" mislead his wife. It looks like part of Adams new condition is do to the fact he listened to her on this matter in the first place.

reply to post by Logarock


So, do you disagree with Noturtyical, when he said that Adam was not deceived, but chose to eat the fruit because he loved Eve sooooooo much?

By they way, you can't separate Eve from Adam, because was made from Adam, was drawn out from within him, and placed in front of him as his companion. Eve was not a sovereign self determined person, she was Adam's inner feminine aspect.

These Abrahamic religions continually deny the feminine aspect of spirituality,yin and yang, as demonstrated in their tenets of the oppression of women.

Originally posted by dusty1
reply to post by AfterInfinity

 

Bullcrap. Bull - freaking - crap!

1 Timothy 2:14 New Living Translation (NLT)

14 And it was not Adam who was deceived by Satan. The woman was deceived, and sin was the result.

BibleGateway

This suggests that if Adam were deceived by his wife it wasnt counted as deception but rather she used his trust in her to work him. Adam was reprimanded for listening to her in the face of clear orders whatever the case.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Logarock

 

So, do you disagree with Noturtyical, when he said that Adam was not deceived, but chose to eat the fruit because he loved Eve sooooooo much?

By they way, you can't separate Eve from Adam, because was made from Adam, was drawn out from within him, and placed in front of him as his companion. Eve was not a sovereign self determined person, she was Adam's inner feminine aspect.

These Abrahamic religions continually deny the feminine aspect of spirituality,yin and yang, as demonstrated in their tenets of the oppression of women.

No I am not trying to seperate Adam form Eve. This idea going around that Adam ate knowing is just some speculation. Its not all bad, but in the end Gods new conditions for Adam were based on the fact that he listened to her. Eve was feedig him a line of something and its right there in the story. He still had the option of doing what God said and he didnt. God didnt assign any nobility to Adams decision.

Talk about yin yang look at the way the two were yoked up after the fall. Adam chose to go with her story so his work in life would be always to please and take care of her rather than God taking care of them both.


Anyway thanks for the chat tonight. Have a good night. Yours.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Logarock

 

These Abrahamic religions continually deny the feminine aspect of spirituality,yin and yang, as demonstrated in their tenets of the oppression of women.

Well lets just say for the sake of an easy answer that these things represent mans bitternes toward women......as does the outright war women have waged on men of late is the yang to the yin. i am not talking about womens rights but just the whole movement of hostility toward men and the reduction of same. Not that desire to pull themselves up alomgside of men but to dominate men.....which may have been the way satan really tempted eve to screw it all up in the first place. "just screw adam. Who does he think he is anyway. Eat the fruit and become a god in your oun right".

What Was Adam Thinking..?

A study on Mauro Biglino (which you can search here on ATS) is
extremely informative.

If his foundations are true then the Sumerian story is the most accurate.
They are the creators of the Adamu.. ..or.. Adam.

My personal summation is this;

In the beginning, our planet held another common specie cross to the homosapien.

The Annunaki used their DNA enhanced within the hu_man species sperm cell test tubing
it in their laboratorial petri dish.
They then incubated it test tube fashion before using a method of artifical insemination
on the female species.

By using the female species as incubators for the Alien encypted homosapien sperm,
it was easy to create a multiple of specie in a short time.

We were created as a work force. Essentially as slaves.

The first specie 'Adam & Eve' was the "pet project" seldom leaving the hospital 'garden'
and it's benevolent creators loved them so much, they made the mistake of teaching them words and understanding, not just work ethic.

We were not to have knowledge, just work ethic but by inducing the Alien DNA with ours, we gained
their ability to amass and use knowledge.

The 'garden' was the classroom or learning place.
The Apple as signified was knowledge.
Could it be the same as today's Laptop with a byte missing from it's Apple..?

Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden for amassing intelligence and resisting the
insistance by the lead in command to be treated as a slave race.

The serpent story is a cross story of the deception of the lab creators defying their
commanders orders.
Adam & Eve were taught much and learned the identity of the "Auroboros" history which is
the story of 'precession' and what the implications are for mankind and planet earth.

Their rebellion lead them to be kicked out of the garden.
They would have no help from the Annunaki during the planets catastrophes.

Cain and Abel is an alligorical story explaining the duality of mankinds plight
dealing with good and evil.
It is essentially the same story as Lucifer and Jesus.

Here we have two favored son's.
Both love their father and try to please him.
The father choses one and chastizes the other.
One son conjures jealousy and kills the other.
Evil prevails over good.
One dies and the other goes on.

The duality of mankinds metemoriphical concience.

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Logarock

 

So, do you disagree with Noturtyical, when he said that Adam was not deceived, but chose to eat the fruit because he loved Eve sooooooo much?

By they way, you can't separate Eve from Adam, because was made from Adam, was drawn out from within him, and placed in front of him as his companion. Eve was not a sovereign self determined person, she was Adam's inner feminine aspect.

These Abrahamic religions continually deny the feminine aspect of spirituality,yin and yang, as demonstrated in their tenets of the oppression of women.

What does 1 Timothy 2:14 say?

reply to post by HumAnnunaki


Really if you look at the story again you will see it has to do with making them farmers and moving away from hunting. He placed them in the Garden of Eden. He told Adam to name everything. And when a offering was brought the fruit was excepted the animals were not. Then you have the Apple. But a lot of the story shows they wanted them to become farmers and not hunters who would sacrifice the animals.

And knowing they used the Lunar calendar for farming. Joseph taught Egypt about farming and storing foods. He taught them the seasons and the Lunar calendar. You could say they were the first tree huggers who wanted to live off of the land and not destroy it. Now I am not saying they were vegetarians but they were probably the first balanced diet.

reply to post by JBA2848


You have that backwards. The animal sacrifice was accepted the veggie one was the one rejected.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


Yes I was wrong on that one.

adam
adm
admin
The truth is in the words,and contractions.
The universe is an acronym.
Or maybe it's a contraction,contrary to popular belief.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Logarock

 

So, do you disagree with Noturtyical, when he said that Adam was not deceived, but chose to eat the fruit because he loved Eve sooooooo much?

By they way, you can't separate Eve from Adam, because was made from Adam, was drawn out from within him, and placed in front of him as his companion. Eve was not a sovereign self determined person, she was Adam's inner feminine aspect.

These Abrahamic religions continually deny the feminine aspect of spirituality,yin and yang, as demonstrated in their tenets of the oppression of women.

What does 1 Timothy 2:14 say?

Who cares? We're talking about Genesis, and what Adam thought.

Originally posted by DrunkYogi
If Adam (Adam+Eve) was the first person, what where his thought's and action's like? If everything we do is a repetition of all of the thing's we have seen and heard then Adam had no template so to speak. What was he like, was he pure (Enlightened)? Confused? Just a thought............

He must have been a pretty lonely dude at first lol

reply to post by DrunkYogi

You will notice i said (IF) Adam was the first person.

All I noticed is that you really didn't read my post.

If you have any positive proof he was not i would like to see it!

Read the book of Genisis, god created man on the 6th day and took the seventh day off. LATTER he made adam and eve.

Genesis 1:26-28

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)


26 And God saith, `Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness, and let them rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that is creeping on the earth.'

27 And God prepareth the man in His image; in the image of God He prepared him, a male and a female He prepared them.

28 And God blesseth them, and God saith to them, `Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over fish of the sea, and over fowl of the heavens, and over every living thing that is creeping upon the earth.'

Adam was not created until latter...

The rest of your post is incoherent.

reply to post by JBA2848


According to The Bible God gave them Seth to replace Abel.