Please give me reasons why guns are bad., page 5


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reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 11:27 AM by Krakatoa

So.. why are guns bad. Let me start you off...
1) Instant death if used in anger
2) Instant death (if misused)
3) Instant death (unlike a punch up)
4) Instant death (unlike a knife)


Let me attempt to address these statements one-by-one.

1) When angry, a person may be so angry that their judgement is impaired. This impairment (although temporary) clouds their thought process and reduces their focus. Perhaps they grab a gun (in anger) to kill someone. That gun happens to be unloaded....and click...click... Hmm....its a gun, but it did not equate to "instant death". So, they grab a club (baseball bat, flag pole off the side of the house, axe handle, etc...) and beat the life out of someone.

2) See #1. since killing someone with an object (any object) outside of a declared war scenario is misusing that object ....wouldn't you agree.

3) You get in a fight, a bar fight, a street fight, gang fight. etc... (The type of fight and location matters to the choice of weapon used). In a close-in fight, it is MUCH easier to pull a knife. It's small, concealable, simple to use, no moving parts, nothing to chance it not working So in close quarters, you stick the person under the rib-cage, making a gesture similar to a "7" that slices though the lungs (preventing them screaming), all the major organs, and aorta......instant and silent death. A gun makes a noise....doesn't it? And even in close quarters, does not guarantee instant death...(I know, I've been stabbed a few times in my day, and I'm still here to write aren't I).

4) See #1 - #3....same argument.

You see, the skill of the person wielding the weapon is the deadliest part of any scenario. The object is not "bad" nor "good". The intentions of the person using that object is "bad" or "good".

So, I suggest you crawl back under your momma's skirt, and hide from the "boogie man". Let the adults have a serious and productive conversation about the topic at hand.


reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 01:05 PM by IvanAstikov
reply to post by Krakatoa



How much skill and experience do you need to be able to use a blade effectively without the element of surprise? I'll tell you... a lot more than you'd need to use a machine pistol. Give me any weapon slightly longer than the blade being brandished and I'd take a knife off anyone bar an Ecuadorean death squad member or any other person who has made a living out of using a knife to kill people. Give that same person a Glock or an Uzi and even if I had a matching firearm I wouldn't stand a chance unless I'd been lucky enough to predict what they were about to do.


reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 01:27 PM by bekod
reply to post by michael1983l

some facts you must know as not to be read as a daft person, not one person has told you this so i will

one the is no automatic weapons, for sale or use by a US citizen that does not have the proper paper work to buy or own them,

second the Police do have them M4a1 m14 and m16, SWAT HRT and anti terrorist units and some police forces rather it be city, county, and or state are issued mp5 and the hk 98 rifle

third there is no M4a6, It is a M4a1, it is the rifle used by mil and police and the Fed, that being FBI, DHS.
The only rifle that is sold to a citizen that is a SEMI AUTO referred to as an assault weapon is an AR15, that has many styles or calibers most common is 223 some are sold in 30cal, 308 that is 7.62 x51 22.250

and before others come along and say there is no such a thing as an assault weapon well here you go tacticalarmsmfr.com... from their web site
We strive to manufacture the most precision and accurate AR15 assault rifles on the planet.
tell them their is no such a thing for they make sell them and have many options. not affiliated with nor have done biz with web site

edit on 13-1-2013 by bekod because: line editing



reply posted on 13-1-2013 @ 02:34 PM by Krakatoa
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
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post by Krakatoa



How much skill and experience do you need to be able to use a blade effectively without the element of surprise? I'll tell you... a lot more than you'd need to use a machine pistol. Give me any weapon slightly longer than the blade being brandished and I'd take a knife off anyone bar an Ecuadorean death squad member or any other person who has made a living out of using a knife to kill people. Give that same person a Glock or an Uzi and even if I had a matching firearm I wouldn't stand a chance unless I'd been lucky enough to predict what they were about to do.


As have been repeatedly stated, ever weapon used in recent "mass shootings" here in the U.S.A.has been a semi-auto. An UZI is a full-auto, therefore, another straw man argument as nobody can easily purchase one legally in the U.S.A. A Glock, pistol, semi-auto, yes, I'd agree it is effective at killing someone beyond the reach of a hand weapon. But, does that make the gun "bad"? You put a loaded Glock semi-auto pistol on the table....is it going to spontaneously kill anyone? Or does it take a person with bad intentions, using it inappropriately, to be bad?

Again, the object is not bad, the intentions behind the person wielding it needs to be "bad".
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