America will do nothing, page 1


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Topic started on 12-1-2013 @ 06:42 AM by CottonwoodStormy
Hello everyone, I am making this post to pose a few questions concerning America. Do you really think a single issue like gun confiscation will really send the average American over the edge? I mean lets look, here you have an article www.smartbrief.com... edtech&sb_code=rss&&campaign=rss stating a Texas judge upholds the ruling that students must now where tracking devices as one example of liberty infringement and what are people doing about it? Nothing. How about the 50 million people living in poverty? drsircus.com... and what is anybody doing about it? Nothing. What has happened to the Occupy wallstreet protests? They got squashed and what is America doing about it? NOTHING. I am just touching on some of the issues to make a bigger point, and that is the line should have been drawn long ago where people would see the warning signs of being powerless and doing SOMETHING. Why does it have to get to gun confiscation before people start saying they will do something, and is this again just talk? I am not American, I am a Canadian/Australian/Algerian actually, but I feel just as passionately about this issue as everyone in America because to me, if America does not stand up for the true meaning of freedom, the whole world will lose liberty too. Thanks for listening, I wish we all had the power to do something and stop the tyranny NOW not when we have an excuse per say, because when you look around there is already plenty of reasons to be ending the current order of things.


reply posted on 12-1-2013 @ 06:54 AM by CottonwoodStormy
reply to post by AnIntellectualRedneck



But poverty is directly effecting them, how many homes have been foreclosed on? www.foxnews.com... You know like I'm saying the warning signs have been there, right back to the first book I ever identified with and that was William C Cooper' Behold a Pale Horse. I along with many others have been watching this all unfold for many years.



reply posted on 12-1-2013 @ 07:01 AM by AnIntellectualRedneck
reply to post by CottonwoodStormy



Poverty is effecting a lot of people, but there is a social safety net to help mask it and take away the full brunt and the total burn of it.

Poverty is effecting a lot of people, but there is a consolation prize. There is no consolation prize with strict gun control.

It also happens that poverty is effecting a lot less people than potentially could be effected by any significant gun ban.


reply posted on 12-1-2013 @ 07:04 AM by zedVSzardoz
reply to post by CottonwoodStormy



anyone who claims to know limits or maximums to anything "just because" is usually wrong.

People didnt think many things would or wouldnt happen, yet they did, Not everything is predictable or can be anticipated.

Look around if you are in the US. People are united in this ONE issue. That is why there is so much spin to it. It has the possibility of getting out of their hands and causing people to look to state sovereignty for protection. That would be a huge kick in the balls to the federal government.

It is MORE than you want to say it is. It is much more now.

Ron Paul was MORE than what they credited him when he started out. They were completely wrong about the EDUCATING effect of people on people.

Paul lost, BUT he motivated people to learn and he has made people look to each other in ways analysts never considered. There is no undoing the damage to the federal government that he did. People will not un-forget the lessons learned. These same analysts are saying this is no big deal.......


Keep pushing. Our states are not corrupt like DC. We have no problem understanding the true nature of the union and the republic which excludes the district of Colombia....because it is not even a state and so not part of the union. Our state sovereignty is starting to reassert itself over this ONE issue. It has a galvanizing effect because it strikes at the heart of our cultural identity. We are a country born of a revolution. Dont forget that.

This is like Italy talking about banning pasta because of the health risks, or Hawaii banning surfing because of the risk of drowning. People unite when you threaten their IDENTITY. We are then AS ONE.

So no....


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reply posted on 12-1-2013 @ 07:17 AM by CottonwoodStormy
reply to post by zedVSzardoz



Well that is IF the US government passes stringent gun legislation, and IF they backdown and don't I still certainly hope it has given Americans enough food for thought to realize they need to galvanize anyway. You know what I mean? I think we are in unprecedented times, and it feels like people are powerless watching, liberty leave. Here in Algeria, if you go to the bank to get a bank loan for say 5 million dinars, they make you pay 6.5% interest recalculated every year so in the end you end up paying back 15 million dinars. Here there is no land unless you buy it privately and so the price of land is ridiculous and what can people do here? They have no weapons since the revolution here in the 90's when hundreds of thousands were killed and the people lost so now they are too afraid to stop the rampant corruption. The same thing will happen to America if they continue to do nothing about liberty.


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 12:17 AM by Dingo80
reply to post by allenidaho



Get real - You are all Internet Warriors. You haven't done anything about your Brutal Police State.

You have been taught to "Duck and Cover".


I had a thread up using these two pictures that was 404'd. Why? - The truth Hurts?

Chinese Reaction to Government Tyranny


American Reaction to Government Tyranny


That's just the way it is.


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reply posted on 16-1-2013 @ 11:53 AM by EL1A5
reply to post by CottonwoodStormy



The wheels on our vehicles have tracking devices, our cell phones, computers, etc. An ID with a tracking isn't that much of a shock to me.

Honestly, the tptb would rather spend money on things that will lend them an upper-hand and keep them safe. Instead of spending millions to house homeless veterans or civilians we see them shift the money flow banning automatic weapons and more in depth background checks. Much like spending so much money to keep drugs away from the borders, yet we see thousands of people growing/producing nationwide in their backyards.

It is a lost cause imposing new rules on an old dog.

The "greatest" nation has become fearful of its citizens.
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