How far behind are we to ET?

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posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 09:34 AM
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They are easily MILLIONS...and some speculate BILLIONS...of years ahead of us. Im sure they move, think, travel and occupy in ways incomprehensible to us in our limited-time existence here on Earth.

They'd use transportation in ways we can never imagine yet, created with techniques millions of years ahead of our knowledge, and created with ways and means and substances we will never understand on planets we've never been exposed to.

Kind of depressing, yes? Propulsion? They dont need any. Conquering? They dont have to. Our minerals? They dont need them. Making us slaves? Dont have to. Eat us? Hardly.




posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 09:35 AM
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i'd say a couple of decades

did you hear about the Keshe Foundation?

here's the link to the website:
keshefoundation.org

and forum:
forum.keshefoundation.org

we already have the knowledge for traveling in deep space
what we lack is the right mindset...



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 01:12 PM
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I would like to point out, not all of our amazing break through's are done by people with absurdly high IQ's.

Yes, many of these inventions are honed in by those who have an exceptional IQ, but some of the greatest inventions ever made were done by groups of people with slightly above average IQ.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by FormerSkeptic
In whatever field — power production, space travel, communications, politics, weapons, spirituality, social-political order, etc…

What's your estimate of time or effort it takes to reach par with these EBEs (extraterrestrial biological entities)?

What do you think?


* From your list *
Interstellar space travel: 300 years behind.
Energy: 200 years behind.
Communication: 75 years behind.
Politics: 5000 years behind.
Weapons: 200 years behind.
Spirituality: N/A.
Social-political order: 5000 years behind.

* Others *
Computer tech: 100 years behind.
Kindness toward other species: 200 years behind.

I don't think anything will be possible, until humans can harness unlimited energy sources, for free.
Like Zero-Energy and other similar sources.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by teslahowitzer
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Agreed, our limits are all in our minds, and as Des said, throttled by human nature. We have evolved to use a very small ammount of our brain mass, and Skept has the size arguement, but, not long ago, a thumb drive had small capacties, will not be long before a 1TB thumb drive will be available, same with our minds, same size, more capacity, this phase of evolution and enlightenment is the main focus of contact and the directive of "ET". Like a high rate sine wave, the curve will be the beginning of an evolution some will not take well.


Kingston just revealed their 1 TB thumb drive.
So we are already there...



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Nanocyte
Just think about how many people are on this planet who have no access to education or encouragement to use their innate intellect. I often wonder how many Stephen Hawkings or Noonian Soongs there are in the world just wandering around in a third world country scrounging for food, or sitting on a couch watching TV after spending all day doing meaningless work simply because they don't have the resources or fundamental training to pursue their innate potential. Imagine what we could accomplish in 50 years if the human race as a whole decided to focus its resources on ensuring high quality education and encouraging natural human curiosity for the billions of people on this planet.


Yes..
There could be 100 people out there, with the capacity of Hawking, Einstein, and Tesla.
They need a chance to develop their ideas.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by justwokeup
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Our problems on earth (as mentioned by others) are a failure of our thinking rather than a lack of capacity to think.
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But that's just saying it in reverse. "Failure of our thinking rather than a lack of capacity to think" ??

Again, it's due to our limited brain and mind.

We're limited in so many ways that we don't even know, yet we create the problems of wars and distrust and fears. We're not only hardwired to kill each other for greed and power, but we're physically incapable of bypassing this nature because of BASIC INSTINCTS.

There could be many ways (for example, a global mutation to telepathy) to rise up to the next level. But sadly, I don't think the current human brain is adequate. We can't just "learn it." They say evolution has only made the brain more efficient over the last 20,000 years, but there's nothing really different in physiology from that time. We all have the same attitude as our ancestors.

You've no doubt heard the many descriptions of humans as "immature" for the incredible technologies we've developed.

I don't think any ultimate computer or AI can compensate for our basic instincts. Our basic instincts have to change, either by miraculously developing a higher consciousness, a global dramatic rise in average IQ, a mutation to telepathy, or something similar.

So it's all inclusive — we're behind enough in the social and political arenas that it hinders our technological advancement.

A secret society that controls disclosure (or worse) is one manifestation of it. Fear of ridicule in the average person is another.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 02:19 PM
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I think the question posted is impossible to answer quite frankly.. it could be that we're the most advanced civilization out there, or we could be the equivalent of cave men.. but I think we tend to be pretty primitive in how we utilize energy .. I think solar is the largest resource we have yet to fully use to it's greatest potential.. it wouldn't require us to rape the planet's natural resources for energy production as we do now.. it would help eliminate much of the pollution .. I think once we unlock that energy source properly that we'll be able to do great things.
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posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by RUFFREADY
Michio Kaku 3 types of Civilizations...

He has an interesting perspective, but I think it's still only looking in from the outside. Or looking up from below. It's no doubt a clear way to categorize all the unknown that's above us.

But it's like a smart mouse categorizing predators — those who can outrun it, those that can kill it with one bite, and even greater predators who can swallow it whole. It's all good. It's accurate and valid. But still very limited due to the perspective.

There are many ways to trap a mouse. There could be many other types of energy.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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How far behind are we to ET?


We are light years behind ET. Both literally and figuratively. In fact we are behind in many other ways as well:

Ethically, spiritually, economically, morally, technically, altruistically, intellectually, socially, philosophically, sustainably, metaphysically, industrially, ecologically, intrinsically, psychologically, functionally, temporally, narcissistically, culturally, primordially, empathetically, psychoanalytically, militarily, sensually, ideologically, interracially, evolutionarily, communicably, cosmologically, emotionally, scholastically, existentially, reflexively, perceptively, kinesthetically, materialistically, biologically, phylogenitically, linguistically, parsimoniously, aesthetically, empirically, rationally, individually, collectively, foundationally, logically, theologically, and scientifically...

...to name just a few.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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about 3000 years, they had nukes when we were still wiping our arses with our bare hands



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by tomten
Interstellar space travel: 300 years behind.
Energy: 200 years behind.
Communication: 75 years behind.
Politics: 5000 years behind.
Weapons: 200 years behind.
Spirituality: N/A.
Social-political order: 5000 years behind.

Computer tech: 100 years behind.
Kindness toward other species: 200 years behind.

I don't think anything will be possible, until humans can harness unlimited energy sources, for free.
Like Zero-Energy and other similar sources.

The exaggerated difference is fully appreciated!

I do think, however, that there's a universal truth in the effectiveness of communications. If individuals in any society have a special way (special from our perspective today) to communicate with each other, then the political and social order falls into place very easily.

By "communications," I don't mean just a better cell phone or faster Internet servers. Communication is human to human understanding regardless of technology. I'm talking about maybe telepathy or cognitive empathy. Or some way of reaching a higher consciousness. Unfortunately it's hauntingly reminiscent of cults. There's "remote viewing" as described by some ET followers. Maybe it's all heading towards the same path.

I think it would be the biggest key to unlocking all future technological advancements — instead of being a hindrance.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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We're already at a rudimentary stage of augmenting human intelligence with machines. The internet is a prime example; and eventually it will transform into 3d/4d metaverse. Apart from that immense connectivity, computers are used for so many other task that would otherwise be inconceivable.

With the emergence of quantum computers, [reverse engineered] brain models, advanced AI and more, there will be another massive technological burst -- a shift in consciousness we can't currently imagine.

As for how "far behind ETs" are, it can't really be known. Considering the vastness of the universe/multiverse, there may be civilizations millions of years more established. At a certain point, time may no longer even be a factor. There may quite literally be an information singularity, where every possibility & technology becomes known in an instant.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:28 PM
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We're so far behind that many of us are thinking that these beings are ET when they are actually earth created beings. Maybe we are just a little naive to not know what technology really exists.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 05:00 PM
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What if for once we think outside of the box. Why do we always have to be smarter? What if there may be a simpler way? We as humans tend to over think everything and make everything seem harder than it is. I am not saying this is the way or that I have a way, but I have an idea. The first step to conquering space travel would be conquering travelling the speed of light in the deepest part of the ocean. Once we have achieved that, space travel and withstanding the effects of space travel will hypothetically be easier. Take the time to think about it, but don't over think it, maybe I am right, maybe I am wrong.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
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I would like to point out, not all of our amazing break through's are done by people with absurdly high IQ's.
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But we're all held back by too many people with low IQ — idiots and sheeple.
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posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Hijinx
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I would like to point out, not all of our amazing break through's are done by people with absurdly high IQ's.

Yes, many of these inventions are honed in by those who have an exceptional IQ, but some of the greatest inventions ever made were done by groups of people with slightly above average IQ.



Sure, of course, I agree but the forefront of human progress is pretty much populated by the 'think tank' types who set the course. To some they are, or represent, the PTB, are probably ETs etc., but really they are, on the whole, seriously energized human beings doing what their particular talents spur them to do.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 08:24 PM
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1. Mandatory teachings of the human psyche and brain (-neuro-psychology, psychoanalysis, neurology...) starting at a very young age would help.
It would explain/make us understand the motivations of our actions, the reasons and roots of our desires and fears and stimulate people into rethinking what being a human-being truly means.
We MUST start there if we want a paradigm change and truly evolve.

2. This would lead to less (if at all) religion and (unsubstiated) beliefs. Therefore more critical/logical thinking.

3. Which will induce a high increase in average IQ, tremendous scientific improvements (no more Quantum Mechanics BS), a change in society...

This is why 1. will never happen, ever.

Anyway who's to say that 'we' (at least our occult - in its original sense - elite) doesn't possess knowledge far beyond what we are being taught and allowed to believe. They could be a thousand years ahead in terms of scientific knowledge as far as we know (which is not much)...


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posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 09:22 PM
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what about temporal phasing, antigravity, is time and space connected, are aliens. In search of did a show on alien signals back in 79. Or I call it, back in the day, and a scientist though you could get an alien signal from flowers.

I heard this signal from the flowers. I fell asleep and I saw a planet, cold, cloudy, but not real cold, saw these weird things on the planet and then I saw the eyes pop open on one and then I woke up. I think ufos and sorcery seems to be connected, that means UFO's can change shape into something. I also had a theory that they could go faster than speed of light, have weapons and perhaps a weapon that can destroy the planet.

If they could change shape they could change into a sphere and with antigravity they could just sit there in the air, and if aliens can go back in time, because time and space is connected, they could go back and do something else like not be there.

They would have to be trillions of light years away if they can make it here it would be through a wormhole out in space somewhere.

If Seti are looking for E.T., maybe they should look no further then the sound from flowers found way back in 1979. Also maybe SETI should shift their satellites to the Eastern skies.

Finally the Men In Black, I saw them when I was a kid the claim they come when you have had contact, they claim they were protecting Earth, I'm pretty the CIA would like to know what that is. They had black clothes, silencers, drove around in a van. I haven't seen them in a real long time.

I asked them what they believe and they said conspiracy theories, socialism and games.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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I think that they are as much part of our earths shared history as us if not more so. Why the curtain has not been drawn and our shared experience has not happened I can only guess. When people think in terms of ET it usually excludes them from our own existence, our own life and time.

Perhaps as we learn to tap into the dark passages of our own minds we will also begin to understand our connections to the vast future of our potentials.





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