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Topic started on 11-1-2013 @ 09:29 PM by theAnswer1111

Anderson Cooper "Attacks" Conspiracy Theorists


www.mediaite.com
Believe it or not, there are actually people out there who are convinced that last month’s horrific shooting in Newtown, Connecticut was staged. Anderson Cooper opened his show tonight taking on these conspiracy theorists.
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reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 09:42 PM by theAnswer1111
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That's one of the best replies I have ever heard and I applaud you! I thinks it about time to start more independent, un-biased investigative journalism radio stations and free-press websites that are fact based and don't sensationalize things.


reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 09:45 PM by kosmicjack
I saw it. It was fairly condemning.

I was amused by the comments of
Jonathan Kay, a writer who has studied the conspiracy theorist phenomenon:

fullcomment.nationalpost.com...

He's a strong critic of the 9/11 Truth Movement. Can't say I blame him there... LOL!

On the AC360, he divided us into two groups, "Fire-brands" and "Cranks". Firebrands are college-aged and anti-establishment...Cranks are older, typically male and like to unravel mysteries.

Honestly, after watching and listening to the comments and characterizations made - I was *personally, speaking as a member* so PROUD that ATS has come out vocally and strong in taking a stand to keep the Sandy Hook craziness to a minimum.
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reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 09:49 PM by 1/2 Nephilim
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2 minutes was enough for me. I can't take him talking like a 12 year old Valley Girl for long.

*snaps fingers*

"Talk to the hand Professor!"



reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 10:09 PM by oxjondoexo
I dont think the shooting in Newtown, Connecticut was staged or faked, but I do think there was some government involvement, seemed weird how the government were discussing gun laws and then children were killed with an assault rifle...seemed like children were targeted because people would be most effected by it and the shooter using an assault rifle when thats what they are trying to ban...and I do think the media played on the shooting in support of the government since its goes hand in hand with the government and intelligence agency...

The "CONSPIRACY" that John F Kennedy was assassinated for disclosing is still ongoing...we are all talking about the same conspiracy globally...

"we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed" (JFK).

"There exists in our nation today a powerful and dangerous secret cult -- the cult of intelligence. Its holy men are the clandestine professionals of the Central Intelligence Agency. Its patrons and protectors are the highest officials of the federal government. Its membership, extending far beyond governmental circles, reaches into the power centers of industry, commerce, finance, and labor. Its friends are many in the areas of important public influence -- the academic world and the communications media. The cult of intelligence is a secret fraternity of the American political aristocracy. The purpose of the cult is to further the foreign policies of the U.S. government by covert and usually illegal means, while at the same time containing the spread of its avowed enemy, communism. Traditionally, the cult's hope has been to foster a world order in which America would reign supreme, the unchallenged international leader. Today, however, that dream stands tarnished by time and frequent failures. Thus, the cult's objectives are now less grandiose, but no less disturbing. It seeks largely to advance America's self-appointed role as the dominant arbiter of social, economic, and political change in the awakening regions of Asia, Africa, and Latin America. And its worldwide war against communism has to some extent been reduced to a covert struggle to maintain a self-serving stability in the Third World, using whatever clandestine methods are available" (Marchetti & Marks, 1974).

"This cult is patronized and protected by the highest level government officials in the world. It's membership is composed of those in the power centers of government, industry, commerce, finance, and labor. It manipulates individuals in areas of important public influence - including the academic world and the mass media. The Secret Cult is a global fraternity of a political aristocracy whose purpose is to further the political policies of persons or agencies unknown. It acts covertly and illegally" (Marchetti & Marks, 1974).

"Socially as well as professionally they cliqued together, forming a sealed fraternity. They ate together at their own special favorite restaurants; they partied almost only among themselves; their families drifted to each other, so their defenses did not always have to be up. In this way they increasingly separated themselves from the ordinary world and developed a rather skewed view of that world. Their own dedicated double life became the proper norm, and they looked down on the life of the rest of the citizenry. And out of this grew what was later named -- and condemned -- as the "cult" of intelligence, an inbred, distorted, elitist view of intelligence that held it to be above the normal processes of society, with its own rationale and justification, beyond the restraints of the Constitution, which applied to everything and everyone else" (Marchetti & Marks, 1974).

Marchetti, Victor & Marks, John D. (1974). The CIA and the Cult of Intelligence. ISBN 0-394-48239-5.

The media and governments keep giving conspiracy theories bad media coverage because they know there is one and they are trying to hide it using propaganda...what gets me is why people think the government wouldn't lie...erm hello trillion dollar lawsuit, 43 trillion dollar lawsuit...chemical weapons tests on the public from 1940-1979, the drone wars, Iraq war, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Frankland coverup, Johnny Gosch, Bilderberg, Bohemian Grove...Earth calling the American people...
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reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 10:13 PM by 2manyquestions
The problem is that as soon as a different theory to the one presented by the media is voiced, it must be either wrong or crazy. As soon as the MSM labels a theory "crazy", the public doesn't want to be associated with the crazies. Rather than search for their own facts, they will succumb to media reports and conclusions. They will go to their jobs and friends tomorrow and talk about how those crazy conspiracy theorists are dishonoring the memories of the dead, saying disturbing things about their families. How insensitive of them!

I don't doubt that real people died in Sandy Hook. I don't doubt that real people were terrorized in these incidents. I think that in a covert situation it is so important to include real people to make these things more believable. What I question is the motive of the shooters and who the shooters really are. Once upon a time I would have thought it crazy too, but knowing that there are powerful people with their own selfish agendas afoot, I can't rule out anything with 100% certainty. With vicious drugs like "Devil's Breath" in existence, who am I to say that such an evil act was perpetrated by even marginally sane people?

Today more shootings were reported; One in a mall and one in another school. Is it coincidence? Is this a planned agenda? Who the hell really knows anymore, except the very people who are involved? I'm pretty level-headed and I don't give in to these thoughts easily, but I know what world governments are capable of when they want something their way. They sacrifice their citizens on a daily basis! Just look at what happened in Iraq with those imaginary weapons of mass destruction. We toppled multiple governments since, murdering thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians, all for an agenda. Don't tell me these "leaders" have a conscience. If they did, they couldn't possibly participate in this madness. This is precisely why I sometimes think that incidents like Sandy Hook could have been staged. Again... that doesn't mean real people didn't die, it means that I can't rule out the possibility of outsiders purposely influencing the situation to happen a certain way with a certain planned outcome.
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reply posted on 11-1-2013 @ 10:30 PM by pointr97
Agreed, I think there were outside forces into each shooting, even this last one in taft....Aurora didn't do, just didn't get the reaction they want, the outcry from the population....so after six months of not being able to push something afterwards, they put plan B, something they learned from 9/11. Put the face of a tragedy so bad that no one will be able to come out in opposition of, that of a six year old boy or girl. Sad, horrific, obscene, but would do the job.....and why stage it, two men can keep a secret if one is dead. We learned from 9/11, that given the right tragedy and spin, no one could stand against, remember those against the patriot act, they were demonized as traitors and slapped in the face with the families of those lost. Then, why stage it when it is easier to just do it, less cover up and risk of leaks.

Look at the taft shooting, i don't really know much about it, only because I turned off the news lately....however, what a day or two after biden starts talking executive order regardless of congress support.....it is to coincidental.

Look at the flu hysteria, anyone older than 35, do you remember this madness in the 70s or 80s?.....death by flu was so unique that an entire urban legend surrounded the film poltergeist because the little girl died of the flu and it was such a bizarrely rare situation......and now, people are flocking to hospitals and screaming for vaccines that are 'out-of-stock' even though producers say, 'we have plenty, no sweat'......

Sorry, dog the theorists out there all they want, but if there wasn't something to it, everyone knows you don't acknowledge the crazy people, it just gives them fuel.
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