FDA Coverup? Could this be the start of addressing the recent spike in violent outbursts?

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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:50 PM
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Seems a bit strange that following the recent increase in violent outbursts, shootings, stabbings, and sleep induced activity, that the FDA is only now recommending a reduction in approved levels of numerous "sleep aids", the FDA wants us to believe its making this recommendation due to extended drowsiness the day after? Really, they are concerned with a little drowsiness the day after, and not the related negative affects? Don't you believe it....cover up in the works....or is it cover-your-a## ?

FDA Lowers Dosages for Popular Sleep Meds




posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:53 PM
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All I wish to say is this: the FDA is not trustworthy, nor is the USDA. The health and well being of the US citizens is not their primary concern.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:57 PM
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I find this ruling incredibly strange considering the over the counter sleep meds like unisom can leave you feeling even more disoriented in the morning...not to mention not sleeping... My mother suffers from insomnia and this drug brought her old self back because she was able to sleep again. She tried half the dose for a while but it wasn't effective so she went back to the standard.

I was prescribed these for a 1 month period and I felt completely normal in the morning unlike the feeling from the OTC pills.

It takes the FDA forever to approve things that work like cancer medication yet this just swiftly come out with this. This just seems odd to me.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:57 PM
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Its not that people are to stupid to understand the drugs they are taking and the side effects.....

Nope, its the evil illuminati trying to only kill christians. Of course! So stand on your rooftops and shout how your going to murder anyone that works with the devil. Then when the cops show up its all apart of the devils evil scheme to keep you from standing on your roof and threatening people.

We have a self-fulfilling prophecy dont we.

/sarcasm.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by Epirus
I find this ruling incredibly strange considering the over the counter sleep meds like unisom can leave you feeling even more disoriented in the morning...not to mention not sleeping... My mother suffers from insomnia and this drug brought her old self back because she was able to sleep again. She tried half the dose for a while but it wasn't effective so she went back to the standard.

I was prescribed these for a 1 month period and I felt completely normal in the morning unlike the feeling from the OTC pills.

It takes the FDA forever to approve things that work like cancer medication yet this just swiftly come out with this. This just seems odd to me.



Exactly, That is what makes the explanation of "drowsiness" the deciding factor for this recommendation so laughable. Seems odd, given the timing....there must be more to it than that.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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Hmm i dont think i would take the article where you took that article.

i would say yes a form of a cover up.. but maybe in another sense.

Perhaps they are trying to eliminate people from going into to deep sleep.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
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Its not that people are to stupid to understand the drugs they are taking and the side effects.....

Nope, its the evil illuminati trying to only kill christians. Of course! So stand on your rooftops and shout how your going to murder anyone that works with the devil. Then when the cops show up its all apart of the devils evil scheme to keep you from standing on your roof and threatening people.

We have a self-fulfilling prophecy dont we.


I'm not quire GROK'ing your post here? Who said anything about Christians? or Illuminati? It wasn't me...I'm thinking its more of a secret finding of a link between the violence and the over use or these drugs. SO, they come up with a story on;y the Government thinks is believable, that its being mandated due to the risk of excess drowsiness rsulting from taking a #%#$ sleep aid! Yeah....riiiiiiight. < Says Dr. Evil with his pinky to his mouth >



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:06 PM
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That's also a possibility....I just have a hard time believing that the FDA is concerned with anyone feeling drowsy after taking a sleeping pill. Sounds kinda obvious to me....you take a sleeping pill, you get sleepy...duh!



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:07 PM
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Originally posted by misse2miss
Hmm i dont think i would take the article where you took that article.

i would say yes a form of a cover up.. but maybe in another sense.

Perhaps they are trying to eliminate people from going into to deep sleep.


I agree, I think there is some motive but not in the way the OP suggests...maybe more money for pharma(twice the pills)? Maybe the Kennedy family got mad at ambien for Kerry Kennedy's crash which resulted from her driving within an hour or 2 of taking ambien? haha who knows...all I know is it's strange. It takes them forever to approve cancer drugs yet they pounce on this public health "danger". All the while there are still "pain" clinics in Florida prescribing highly addictive opiate pain medications.


WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. -- A court document says the drug found in Ambien sleeping pills was found in Kerry Kennedy's blood after her recent New York auto accident. A urine test found no trace of alcohol. The ex-wife of Gov. Andrew Cuomo and daughter of the late Sen. Robert F. Kennedy said a week ago that her doctors thought a seizure caused the July 11 accident. She said their tests found no alcohol, recreational drugs or prescription medication. She acknowledged she told a police officer she might have taken an Ambien by accident instead of thyroid medication.

Kerry Kennedy Ambien Crash
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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I abused my Xanax script for years, Im perfectly fine.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Krakatoa
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That's also a possibility....I just have a hard time believing that the FDA is concerned with anyone feeling drowsy after taking a sleeping pill. Sounds kinda obvious to me....you take a sleeping pill, you get sleepy...duh!

Ambien's pretty well known for having some crazy side effects.



I agree that prescription drugs seem highly related to mass murders, but I doubt this particular news item is related to that. Simply, it's the wrong type of drugs. I'm unaware of any link between Ambien and its ilk and, in fact, any violence at all. If there were any, the culprit would, in a few hours, completely forget that they had any involvement in the violence, and would be shocked at what they had done. That has not been the case, to my knowledge, with mass murders. Usually those dudes have pretty long lasting psychoses or something.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by zonetripper2065
I abused my Xanax script for years, Im perfectly fine.


What does benzodiazepine abuse have to do with Ambien and the FDA's decision to lower standard doses(the OP topic)? The decision had nothing to do with dosage abuses and nothing to do with benzodiazepines. Enlighten me.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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I can't remember the name of the thread but someone posted about the death of a rifle manufacturer who died in a mysterious car crash after posting a list of school shooters and the meds (anti depressants, anxiety, etc..) they were on, to Facebook.
It seems like it could be connected in some way.
I really want to know more about this "notebook" Holmes sent to his psychiatrist or whatever it was.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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i mean i can see how the op is connecting it.

Most of these mass murders have been on psycho drugs. Most of these drugs cause insomnia..i do not know for a fact i just know my cousins does he has odd.
So they are usually paired with a sleep aid.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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Makes me wonder the real reason for this recommendation.

Did they find a longer-term side-effect that has not been made public?
Did they discover it's cheaper to produce more of the lower dosage pills than less of the larger dosage pills?
There's something that just doesn't add up here for me.

Please keep the ideas coming folks.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:17 PM
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My 87 year-old grandmother was taking Ambien and had to be taken off of it recently. Apparently, she had been doing normal wakeful activities in her sleep. She freaked out after she woke up one morning and realized she had fried a hamburger and ate it in her sleep that night. Thank goodness she didn't get in her car and try to drive somewhere.

It really makes one stop and think about what kind of things people could do and how we don't know which people are even using these drugs.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:18 PM
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I found this on circle of moms it is a direct account from a mom posting for help.



My son is 9 and has recently been diagnosed with ADHD. We are trialing medication and he's on 8 hour slow release which he takes at 8am. A lot of our trouble seems to be at bed time. He takes a long time to get sorted, seemingly dragging it out. Once he is in bed he finds things in his bedroom to play with instead of laying and trying to get to sleep. He has a tv and games console in his bedroom and we take the controllers so he can't be tempted to use it, but he's been sneaking them back from us.. or sneaking his handheld nintendo ds from downstairs. He's lieing to us about having things with him and we have to strip his bed down to find them.. and he gets them confiscated for the week. I've brought bedtime forward as a punishment to try and stop him behaving this way too, but he never seems to learn.. I just can't think of anything else to try... I can't remove everything from his room, but he always finds something else to fiddle or play with.. Any ideas??? I'm tired from being on the go all day and up and down the stairs until after 11pm some nights!!!


Another woman wrote this


Until a year ago my 13 year old has ADHD combined type and LDs and slept about 4 hours a nite--although she was in bed by 9pm on a regular schedule with ample exercise during the day, no stimulating activities within an hour of bedtime and then I read to her for the last 30 minutes and then some soothing music for about an hour (all positive stuff)--she still laid awake until 1-2 a.m and was up by 6a.m. in 2011 our Neuropsychologist recommended adding a medication called Intuniv to her adhd meds. She started going to sleep within 15 minutes of going to bed!!! I cried for a week I was so happy for her--and for me because I was getting sleep now, too. This is worth a try because the results for us have been nothing short of miraculous. (Melatonin did not work for her, nor did clonadine or MANY other natural things)


Circle of Moms


Too me there is two things wrong with this situation.

Even on medication her child is acting out so what is the medication doing?

Also She needs to put them on sleep aids.. They are children!
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by misse2miss
i mean i can see how the op is connecting it.

Most of these mass murders have been on psycho drugs. Most of these drugs cause insomnia..i do not know for a fact i just know my cousins does he has odd.
So they are usually paired with a sleep aid.


And, when paired (as you stated) if there was a new side-effect discovered that would explain the rise in these incidents, do you really think that would be made public? The Big Pharma industry would take a big hit in the wallet. Cant have that now can we?



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by Komaratzi11
My 87 year-old grandmother was taking Ambien and had to be taken off of it recently. Apparently, she had been doing normal wakeful activities in her sleep. She freaked out after she woke up one morning and realized she had fried a hamburger and ate it in her sleep that night. Thank goodness she didn't get in her car and try to drive somewhere.

It really makes one stop and think about what kind of things people could do and how we don't know which people are even using these drugs.


Well that's freaky and could very well be from the drug but that's not the reason they cite for the decision. They say it's because people aren't clear 8 hours after taking it and could get into car accidents. Not to be insensitive but she's 87...my grandma started doing things like that without the aid of a drug rather it was the onset of dementia.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Krakatoa

Originally posted by misse2miss
i mean i can see how the op is connecting it.

Most of these mass murders have been on psycho drugs. Most of these drugs cause insomnia..i do not know for a fact i just know my cousins does he has odd.
So they are usually paired with a sleep aid.


And, when paired (as you stated) if there was a new side-effect discovered that would explain the rise in these incidents, do you really think that would be made public? The Big Pharma industry would take a big hit in the wallet. Cant have that now can we?



Haha absolutley not. Picture now front page news HALF OF AMERICAS PARENTS FEEDING THEIR CHILDREN TICKING TIME BOMBS!





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