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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 03:31 PM
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I read the responses, and you and your fellow debunkers post like a bunch of adolescents.

Anyone can google physic and post links and scientific terms on the forum, but only some dumb kid would think that makes him sound clever or intelligent. It takes intelligence to explain ones position using logic and reason, as it applies to the material presented, something you and your fellow de-bunkers have yet to do.

Someone scrapes a flint, creating plasma (spark) which ignites kindling, producing more plasma (fire), which heats the charcoal until it begins to burn on its own, creating a red glow, that looks like plasma (a flame inside of the coal) which consumes the charcoal briquette in the same way a plasma (fire) consumes a log. The process is essentially the same, so there is good reason to believe that there is plasma inside of the charcoal creating the heat and the light inside of the briquette.

You post here on the thread defending someone who claims to e a physics teacher but posts like an ignorant school boy, and you honestly think you have an ounce of credibility.




posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 03:36 PM
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The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.

Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. David Dunning and Justin Kruger conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others".

Kruger and Dunning proposed that, for a given skill, incompetent people will:

tend to overestimate their own level of skill;
fail to recognize genuine skill in others;
fail to recognize the extremity of their inadequacy;
recognize and acknowledge their own previous lack of skill, if they are exposed to training for that skill

Source



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 04:18 PM
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Is that the diagnosis from someones therapist?

I hope they are getting treatment.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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OK...I think in the example of a moving flashlight we have to simplify exactly what is happening to the generated light as it is emmitted from the flashlight and any light that is being reflected and focused by the sides of the encircling plastic 1 or 2 inch wall that extends from the flashlight as that flashlight is being moved.

This plastic extention is there for the purpose of directing the light being emmitted as if such an extension was not there the generated light would spread from the source instead of being directed in a more tight beam.

Now lets say that we were able to move the flashlight while holding it to the left or right at 99.99999999999% of Light Speed. At such a speed it would be possible for the flashlight to move the necessary distance needed to interupt a wavelenght.

Still...it does not matter as as the extension of the flashlight intersects such wavelenght the Photons that come into contact with the Electron Orbital Fields extent from the Atomic Nucleus' that make up the plastic of the flashlights extension cause those Photons and their wavelengths to be reflected and thus again focused in the direction that is allowed for such Light waves to travel.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:04 PM
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I have spent some time looking on line for a measurement of the speed of light, that took place in space, including a history on experiments to measure the speed of light, and I have never seen evidence of such a test.

Do you know the name of this test, and do you have a link?

I would have thought such a test would have been tested on one of the earliest deep space probes.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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I've been reading primalfactals posts on his experiment concept, and I think the flashlight concepts was one of the best explanations, but I think you do have him on a technicality here.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:40 PM
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Well...we have used a wide variety of tests to calculate the Speed of Light over the years and you yourself could do this as all one needs is a very good clock...LOL! Preferably Atomic. And a Laser.

There is a Reflective Mirror placed upon the Moon during the Apollo Missions and I believe it is still in use as a Laser Beam is sent from Earth to this Reflector and the Beam reflects the Light back to Earth.

They put it on the Moon so that we could measure the distance of the Moon to the Earth at any given moment as the Moon obtains a maximum distance and a minimum distance from Earth known as Apogee and Perigee respectively.

By using this Laser and Mirror NASA was able to determine not only the Moons distance at any given time but also learned that the Earth in the distant future will loose it's Moon. The Moon is getting a bit further away each year and eventually will reach a point far enough away from Earth that it's force of Orbit will be greater than the Effect of Gravity generated by Earth Mass...and thus our Moon will be lost.

Such calculations use the Speed of Light which can be determined by beaming light or a Laser at a specific distance at a Photon Detection Sensor and timing the beam's travel of the distance using an Atomic Clock. Thus all you have to do then is take the time and multiply times the distance then calculating the ratio of the distance to whatever form of measurement you desire...Miles, Kilometers...etc...and you get speed of light.

Radio Waves are also a good way to calculate the Speed of Light as Radio Waves are like Photons another common form of Energy on the Electromagnetic Scale. So if you are 100 Miles away and you broadcast a signal and again use a Radio Detector or Sensor...Distance Times Time equals speed.

Electricity is a bit different as Electrons must be conducted by a Medium as Electricity will travel using the path of least resistance. So a Lightning Bolt...although very fast...is a bit slower than the Speed of Light as it must conduct through the atmosphere and to the ground.

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:50 PM
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Sometimes things that seem to need a very complex and detailed explaination to represent exactly what is happening or will happen....can easily be explained by the most simple of terms and so obvious a reason that any 5 year old kid who was asked the same question would look up at the one asking and say.....

Cuz these thingies that come out in a circle around the end make the light go that way!

LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Radio Waves are also a good way to calculate the Speed of Light as Radio Waves are like Photons another common form of Energy on the Electromagnetic Scale.


Radio waves are not "like" photons, they are photons. Just at a non visible wavelength.
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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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Yes...of course.

They are all part of the EM Scale.

It is just a difference of Wavelenght.

I try not to bring this up because the last time I did I had to fend off personal attacks from some people screaming at me thing like...I am an Electricians assistant and Light is NOT Electricity or Radio!

LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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The electricians assistant was right. Radio waves start at a frequency just outside the visible spectrum that we call light. Any how, these are just details. So carry on.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 09:11 PM
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HEY! Not you too! LOL!

You know what I mean. LOL!

Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
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Here is a real link.

physics.syr.edu...

Black-body Radiation doesn't explain how the light is created or radiated


What explains how light is created and radiated is Maxwell's equations. In this case, the electrons on the surface of a material in thermal equilibrium are vibrating thanks to heat with a known energy distribution. Moving charges create electromagnetic waves. Since the motions are random it is not in a single frequency but a distribution of frequencies. When everything is in thermal equilibrium as in black body radiation you get the probability distribution of energy, and hence wavelengths, which has been measured experimentally and confirmed theoretically.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by john_bmth
 


I read the responses, and you and your fellow debunkers post like a bunch of adolescents.

Anyone can google physic and post links and scientific terms on the forum, but only some dumb kid would think that makes him sound clever or intelligent. It takes intelligence to explain ones position using logic and reason, as it applies to the material presented, something you and your fellow de-bunkers have yet to do.

Someone scrapes a flint, creating plasma (spark) which ignites kindling, producing more plasma (fire), which heats the charcoal until it begins to burn on its own, creating a red glow, that looks like plasma (a flame inside of the coal) which consumes the charcoal briquette in the same way a plasma (fire) consumes a log. The process is essentially the same, so there is good reason to believe that there is plasma inside of the charcoal creating the heat and the light inside of the briquette.


Until you think about other facts of nature.

If the briquette is heated to the same temperature with an electrical heater in an atmosphere without oxygen, i.e. no flame, no combustion, or even a vacuum, it will glow exactly the same way. If you heat up a fake "briquette", (i.e. a rock and not charcoal), say like those from an external gas fireplace, it will also glow the same way. It will keep glowing after you shut off the burning gas. This emission of light from warm materials, in the absence of combustion, is an experimental fact. It happens the same way regardless of the initial origin of the heat.

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posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 10:52 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by john_bmth
 


Is that the diagnosis from someones therapist?

I hope they are getting treatment.



you just can't make this xxxx up.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:29 PM
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There you go, you made a legitimate effort. Nice to see

However, all you explained is why the briquette glows red, instead of white (multiple frequencies).

Which is what black body radiation explains, which is why I was LMAO at the explanation.

What actually causes light radiation is still a mystery to modern science, as well as what creates a magnetic field.

I am just kicking out possibilities.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:38 PM
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Plasma doesn't need oxygen.

This explanation only works to prove my point.

Without oxygen, will the briquette still be consumed by the process, and under go a permanent change of state of matter?



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:44 PM
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you just can't make this xxxx up.


Sure you can, all you need to do is engage your mind.

Stop taking this too seriously. It is a conspiracy site, most of us come here to kick around crazy ideas.

Some people come here to act like adolescent jerks.



posted on Jan, 25 2013 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
What actually causes light radiation is still a mystery to modern science, as well as what creates a magnetic field.


You are confusion your limited knowledge about the subject with modern science.



posted on Jan, 26 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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I was thinking that since we know something that we label Dark Matter is spread through out our Universe and by calculating Gravitational Effect this Dark Matter which comprises 87% of the known Matter or at least creates 87% of the Gravitational Effect in our Universe...as well as it seems to be spread in a construct of filaments that are responsible for the location as well as clustering of Galaxies....

....perhaps what we are detecting is a case of our one Diverget Universal State of Reality overlapping another Universal Reality that is not specific to our Universal Group within a Multiversal system.

I believe that our Universe is but one of an infinite number within one specific Universal Group which is itself one group of infinite groups in a Multiversal System. Each group each has infinite numbers of Divergent Universal Realities but each group also has it's own set of Natural Laws of Physics or perhaps Natural Laws and constructs that are so alien in their nature that we do not have the ability to either understand them or even identify them.

If our Group is like a tree and the Multiverse is like a forest of infinite trees with each tree having infinite branches to represent the infinite number of Divergent Universal Realities in that group...might it be possible for a branch of one tree to touch the branch of another tree?

Since each of these two branches represent one Universal reality specific to each tree or group which have completely different physical laws or perhaps a combination of similar laws and those alien to each...if the two branches were to touch that being for the two Universal Realities from differnt groups somehow connect or bleed into one another...COULD THIS NOT BE A POSSIBLE SOURCE OF WHAT WE CALL DARK MATTER?

Split Infinity





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