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Originally posted by windword
What kind of God was this Yahweh, that he was so threatened by mankind's intellectual abilities? If they were created in "God's" image, why is it sin to aspire to be like him? Isn't that was any father would want of a son?
When I see what "GOD" created, I see mountain ranges that take my breath away. Flocks of birds that take off in a rush and cover the sky. I see whales breaching for joy in a seemingly infinite ocean. I see a crystal blue dome of sky dotted with clouds during the day, and a canopy of of stars, stretching into forever at night.
Are you trying to tell me that these men of Babel thought there building was greater than these things? Or, was this Yahweh character NOT really the creator of those things, and mankind WAS approaching his intelligence? Can't have that!
This leads mankind of the day to become arrogant and decide that their achievements are greater than Gods. (Sound like today's society at all?)
So he punishes them by spiltting them up and making it difficult for them to communicate thereby thwarting their efforts and teaching them a lesson
He didn't teach them a lesson, he plunged them into ignorance.
If you listen to the words of modern prophets, they all talk about the need for unity among men to defeat Satan who is wandering upon the earth among us.
Who are these "modern" prophets?
There is a difference between a child wanting to be like their father and a child who wants to deny the gift of life that was given to him through arrogance and an 'I am better than you' attitude. The men of the day in the tower of Babel were showing nothing but arrogance toward their creator (father)
Think metahporically here. The tower could represent any one of mankind's arrogant acts here in the 21st century. The way we are gobbling up the worlds resources much faster that the planet can replenish them is just one alarming example. The one thing God has is foresight - he can see the outcome way ahead of us if he lets things go unchecked. I don't think God has a problem with us having intelligence, but when that intelligence leads us down the road to self destruction, well wouldn't you step in if you were a caring parent? Think of the example of a kid finding a box of matches and playing with them. When the parent finds the child striking them, a responsible one will take away the box of matches and maybe discipline the child even if it has been warned against doing just that previously. This is called love, because it is an action that while at the time may seem harsh to the child, intended to save the child from harm.
It's just a building. Again it can also be a metaphor, but at the end of the day it is just a building and one day it will probably fall down, like most other things man makes.
I would tend to disagree with you there. Look at all the ancient societies; The Egyptians, the Mayans, the Chinese, the Sumerians, the Romans, the Greeks, the Indians, and all the other great ancient societes of this world that I have missed listing. Mankind plunged himself into ignorance with the destruction of these societies me thinks.
So god comes down to earth and destroys a United Humanity. God scatters man across the face of the earth and and makes us speak different languages so we cant communicate.
What is gods problem?
Originally posted by windword
I'm just not seeing it. Why would a real "GOD" care if puny humans just didn't get his awesomeness, and compared themselves to him?
I'm not seeing the parent analogy either. No good parent would choose confusion over sitting down and explaining why something is dangerous.
You have really do some back flips to turn this story into a "love" story. Nothing that the Old Testament God did, in my opinion, can be described as love.
Right, and men die after only a few years. Too bad God didn't think that way.
None of those societies claimed Yahweh as their God. Coincidence? I don't think so.
Show me the monuments the Jews built.
What I get from the story is that a United Humanity can achieve anything. And 'god' is afraid of us.
23 I will heap mischiefs upon them; I will spend mine arrows upon them. 24 They shall be burnt with hunger, and devoured with burning heat, and with bitter destruction: I will also send the teeth of beasts upon them, with the poison of serpents of the dust. 25 The sword without, and terror within, shall destroy both the young man and the virgin, the suckling also with the man of gray hairs. 26 I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:
27 Were it not that I feared the wrath of the enemy, lest their adversaries should behave themselves strangely, and lest they should say, Our hand is high, and the Lord hath not done all this.
The Romans adopted Christianity as their own, so yes, they had Yahweh as their God.
The Sumerians may have been the originator of the monotheistic religion. Trace back chinese religion to its oldest texts and you start to find some striking similarities in things like the creation story and the great flood... There are more parallels in world religion than you think. If the story of the tower of babel were true, then you would expect there to be some 'root' elements in religion that stem from the time that humanity was united would you not? The differences are easily explained from the obvious geographic and langauge barriers that ensued meaning that they all developed in their own unique ways.
The God of the Old Testament is a false God and every bit of evidence points to the fact that this God is NOT our creator.
Originally posted by windword
First of all, the Roman's already had their temples, monuments, city infrastructure, roads, bridges, waterways and governmental buildings, when Christianity was adopted. They melded their own pagan gods into the Jesus myth, creating today's Catholic Church, which is way different from what Jesus actually taught.
All this only proves that the Hebrews pledgerized other cultures mythology that came before them, and claimed it as their own.