reply to post by muzzleflash
While I think it's good you challenge any claims on this thread (and we should, regardless of whether the claim is certified or not), you need to
practice what you preach and provide counter facts as I know I would be interested to see the other (scientific) side of the coin (so to speak).
Too much is beyond body absorbtion capacity.
After that its waste.
True for most things that are ingested and taken into the body however this is not entirely true. Athletes, especially body builders require higher
doses of Vitamin C (3 times at least) compared to the average person and this seems reasonable when they also start to develop higher requirements of
protein and carbohydrates (as well as other supplements provided by food and powders, pills etc).
I personally can vouch for such a large intake as I have experience of body building and power lifting where I found I needed larger doses of almost
everything to have an effect (and I believe this is due to the increase in muscle tissue and energy use via the mitochondria in our cells).
These muscular people and athletes tend to become more efficient at digesting, storing and using nutrients, i.e. less goes to waste because their
bodies have learn't to make the most of the controlled food intake they receive.
" Increasing absorbtion rates" through methods offered are controversial and there is as much claiming the opposite.
Again as I stated, athletes develop the ability to both absorb nutrients more effectively than non athletic people but they can also handle larger
Why are many body building and training supplements designed and developed to be absorbed and used at higher doses if your statement is true?
I just find all of this unreasonable.
Educate yourself, do some varied training and read up about how to supplement your body through a good diet and what effect the training and the food
have over a period of time.
And there is no such thing as optimum health. There is heathy and sick, and Im not sick.
I disagree. There is an optimum health level and the majority of western civilisations are nowhere near it due to the poor fast-food diet we live
We become so used to being at a moderate level of health that we deem it to be optimum (in our minds) or we say things like "I am fine" because we
have not experienced anything better so have no reference point to compare with.
Many athletes reach a stage of development where they are not only at a high performance level physically, they are much more efficient as chemical
engines i.e. absorbing and using food/supplements, having a much better cellular engine (or one that has been tuned). The result is that they tend
to have an optimum level of health when compared to the majority of non-active people.
Equally, you have non-active people who are also at an optimum level of health due to having a good balanced organic diet, keeping busy and walking to
maintain a good metabolic level and usually not having a need or relying on pharmaceutical drugs to preserve their health.
I rarely take pharma medicine and/or supplements as 1: I find I am very sensitive them now (due to avoiding them as much as possible) and 2: because I
rely on my body to fight any illnesses and I do this by giving it some ammunition in the form of a good healthy diet (regular food, just prepared
properly) and moderate level of exercise.
The human body is capable of some amazing things but it requires some tuning and I can personally say that my level of health is far greater than most
people I know and more importantly at my later age in life, I am still able to perform as well as a young adult in sport and life.
Good health to you my friend, peace