In the first few decades of the new world, (America) our laws, theology, and freedoms were clear, we had a vision, a way of life, a way to make life free from the powers that squash human rights and ability to create a happy people. Time moved forward and expansion and a diverse population created an enviornment that was perpetual change and forever fluid. America still to this day tries to be the place and source for freedom and rights for everyone, even on the other side of the planet. After WW2 the world was a different place and former allies who acomplished the almost impossible, drew apart and trust and progress evaporated. This is where all parties involved failed the world in my humble opinion. technology and human invention seperated and pointed their agressions at each other instead of working together for the good of mankind. The world now is just a bag of insanity in a microwave with an infinite timer. Seriously, after America, list all of the aggressors on this planet, everyone who has a hand in weapons, weapon technology, warfare anything and they are part of the whole mass insanity that is seconds away from disaster. There are no simple solutions, But someone has to start the cooldown process and Iran with a nuke is not the answer. With superpower status comes super responsibility, And you can only work with a people who want peace and prosperity for everyone on the rock. Any moron with a keyboard can search google and see the list of times that leaders have said certain countries should be wiped off the map, dont deny something you can search and find easy. We are not the answer to everything, and we do not do what is right and fair all of the time, no one is perfect, but as a whole, we are not the worst thing going, cause if that was the case, people would be fleeing, not flocking to America.

A lot of right wing extremist Americans (like the majority of ATS members) have a superiority complex and are constant hypocrites.

Most Americans are nothing like the fanatics on this website.

Originally posted by Manhater
I live with double standards, But, I totally agree about your post. US should just butt out of other countries business and wars and let them fight it out. But another double standard is when they need relief who do they come crawling too? And who rushes to their Aid?.. The US. lol

edit on 9-1-2013 by Manhater because: (no reason given)

It's a misconception that foreign aid is given freely, there are usually always strings attatched.

Originally posted by superman2012
Serious question looking for serious answers. I know this will not dissuade some of you, but at least I tried.

Quite a few people that believe Iran is building towards a nuclear bomb are saying that they should not be doing so.

Quite a few people, in the US, responded in quite a few 2nd amendment threads where people from other countries, were telling them they should get rid of their guns.

So, my question is, why is it ok for some US citizens to tell people what to do in their country, but, if someone tells you what to do in your country, it is stupid and they should keep their nose out of your business?

Is this a case of, do as I say, not as I do? Also, why, in the face of this double standard, should we take anything you say from now on seriously?

Thanks in advance for keeping this civil.

Quite simply put.... we do NOT need ANOTHER nuclear power in the world, we need none honestly.... but comparing bullets to nukes is kind of absurd if you ask me...

I'm also not for gun control.. mostly because it doesn't solve the root problem which is mental health.. a rational, sane person would be fine with a gun.. the problem is identifying and treating people before they commit acts of violence.

Originally posted by Kang69
The Iran nuke argument doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

First, you trust Zionists with nukes more then a country that hasn't invaded another country in over 200 years?

Even if they do get nukes, so what? Do you guys honestly think Iran will commit seppuku? If they nuke Israel Iran would be finished.

It's funny that this argument is used CONSTANTLY to defend Iran ... they haven't invaded a country in 200 years so obviously they are peaceful.. that statement is false...

Iran is very well known for fighting by proxy.. in other words, they don't directly engage their enemies.. instead they provide funding and weapons to groups that attack their enemy for them... Now imagine they had nuclear weapons.... they "lose" one and one of those groups they support "finds" it.....

There's absolutely nothing good to come of Iran going nuclear...

Originally posted by miniatus
I'm also not for gun control.. mostly because it doesn't solve the root problem which is mental health.. a rational, sane person would be fine with a gun.. the problem is identifying and treating people before they commit acts of violence.

So, you accept mental health considerations were not made when your FF's decided "everybody has the right to bear arms"? Do you not think truly wise elders would have thought twice about letting even the village idiot run around with a loaded musket?

I was thrown off at first as well because he seemed to be comparing Iran nukes to the US second Amendment which didn’t make any sense.

This is his only real question.

So, my question is, why is it ok for some US citizens to tell people what to do in their country, but, if someone tells you what to do in your country, it is stupid and they should keep their nose out of your business?

Is this a case of, do as I say, not as I do? Also, why, in the face of this double standard, should we take anything you say from now on seriously?

So I gave him a strait forward answer but he didn’t seem to like it but anyway the only real question he is asking I just posted above.

Forget about all the Iran nukes or Americas second amendment stuff it just detracts from his question.