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Same goes for me. I still have the newspaper (USA Today I believe), with the story.
Originally posted by Snoopie
This is a story that has interested me since i very first read about it, I also saw it in a documentary and not one person they interviewed said planes in formation or flares.
I just really want to know what it was now
Agree, everything you said. My story is here on ATS, the difference is, I had my cell phone, complete with camera in my pocket. I never even gave a thought about it, as I was so fixed on what I was seeing, I didn't even call out to my wife, who was upstairs and could have looked out the window, to see what I was seeing.
Originally posted by mikefortson
reply to post by esteay812
People who ask of photos or videos...please remember this was 1997. I do not recall cell phones as popular or modern with cameras then. I gave no thought to fetch a camera. I tried my best not to even blink for missing even a milli-second of our amazing sighting. We were mezmerized by it and only thought of not missing any part of our limited viewing time.
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
reply to post by sealing
So if you are saying that this V aircraft belongs to the USAF, are you also saying that JonTravolta took a super secret aircraft out for a joy ride over Americas fourth largest city so everyone could see it?
www.imdb.com...
In seconds this giant aircraft went from floating along to going so fast that it seemed to disappear. The human body probably could not cope with those type of G forces. If you can, watch the Nat Geo documentary where aircraft experts explain why they feel there is no way man has the technology to build a craft that can perform like that.
Originally posted by miniatus
The thing that always gets me, and it's the same with this person's account of the story... You see something that amazing and yet ..
1. They go inside for 5-10 minutes
2. Dad goes in and makes his bed "and crap"
If I saw something like that the first thing I would be doing is running for a camera.. and I doubt I'd be thinking about going in to make my bed.
I've seen video of the Pheonix Lights and to me it still seems like the flare scenario is the most plausible .. in all I've seen all you can see are the actual lights, you can't see any actual structure... it also seemed to change shape which indicates to me that it's not a solid object anyway.. .. it began as a sharp v formation and ended up a much slighter v shape..
Originally posted by sealing
There has been so much documentation of the Phoenix lights.
They were not flares and have been shown to be connected to one another.
Anyone in disbelief should review the main footage. Hold a ruler to the screen
and be amazed . They never delineate . The movie "I know what I saw"
has the best reporting and witness interviews I've seen on the subject.
For me there is little doubt because of the amount and similarity of reports
right up till last week, that this Triangle or V shaped craft(s)belongs to the USAF.
We are about due for a public revealing of some amazing hardware.
Remember the insanely futuristic F-117 and B-2 Stealth planes were designed
in the 70's. (A maiden Flight of Dec. 1 1977 to be exact)
Let me repeat that, the 70's. So imagine what they can fly around in now.edit on 11-1-2013 by sealing because: sp
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
reply to post by LeLeu
If this JS Aerospace “Orbital Ascender Primary System” was what was over Phoenix that night, why has JS Aerospace not come out and told everyone and made themselves world famous?
And if it is Top Secret, how come you have a drawing and photo of it?
Originally posted by spiritualarchitect
reply to post by sbjazzman
I have watched your video many times. I am wondering about the lower light on the right. Is this "Dormer" light actually from the house across the street? Meaning there are only 5 lights total actually in the air?
Originally posted by FrznFenix
Originally posted by miniatus
The thing that always gets me, and it's the same with this person's account of the story... You see something that amazing and yet ..
1. They go inside for 5-10 minutes
2. Dad goes in and makes his bed "and crap"
If I saw something like that the first thing I would be doing is running for a camera.. and I doubt I'd be thinking about going in to make my bed.
I've seen video of the Pheonix Lights and to me it still seems like the flare scenario is the most plausible .. in all I've seen all you can see are the actual lights, you can't see any actual structure... it also seemed to change shape which indicates to me that it's not a solid object anyway.. .. it began as a sharp v formation and ended up a much slighter v shape..
This one is a reply in one point to another post also. I just went and spoke with my father. He refuses to get online and talk about. I even asked him to wrote down a few things on paper for me and I would relay them. He again refused. He went in to make his bed because he had been at work all day and my dad was never a real believer in Aliens. He is admittedly too religiously. He does not deny what he saw that night for a second. He just won't talk about it anymore.
As to another reason why I did not grab a camera right off the bat:
If you WERE to actually see something like what we saw miniatus, then the last thing you would be thinking about is a camera. It was like watching everything you ever understood about the world come unraveled right before your eyes. Also I did not have a camera. If you really want to dig into why i could not afford a camera you should research what kind of housing was on Williams AFB during the sighting. We were very, very poor and needed food not cameras.
Also miniatus, When you watched this video. Did it tell you how much time had elapsed, or did it tell you from what direction the video was taken from?
The sense that the craft was moving in one direction or another or even changing shape could have been an illusion or you may have a 2d interpretation as you were not there.. The reason i say this i because of Steve's post on page 5 where he lists this url:
www.oracleofthephoenix.com...
If you look at those pictures and read the descriptions of each you can see how some people in one corner of the city or on one sode of this craft/object saw 3 lights, another side saw 7, another side, the side i was on) saw 5.
A we moved away from the craft and it seemed to head on it path we saw less lights. I can't explain this but if flares were dropped and ignited @17K like the reports suggest they would have to be to be visible as far away ay they were then why would anyone see different amount of lights from standing at the 180 degree vector and difference amount of lights while standing simultaneously at the 360 or 0 degree vector (relative to the lights i mean)?