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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:32 PM
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You dont need a knife! Even common household bleach can be weaponized. Pipe bombs are easy and cheap! There is only one way to stop a person bent on killing himself and others, and that is by direct confrontation!

What if Lanza had walked in tossing home made grenades and chemical poisons? What about firebombs? Gasoline is readily available!



We dont have a gun problem, we have a mental health problem. We also have a drug/gang problem but not a gun problem!
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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Oh sorry, I forgot it is against the law for you to discuss anything Nazi related!
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Lol... what?

As a history major, I am well aware of the above quote.

Every paranoid ATS member pulls that one out of their ass any time the gun control argument comes up.

Truth of the matter is, it has nothing to do with gun control, and everything to do with groups of people... intellectuals. Living under the regime of a well-established lunatic. not gun toting, stock-piling lunatics who fear their own shadow, living in the blessed U S of A.

How many times must a delusional paranoid American use that quote out of context do defend an archaic and clearly broken amendment in the constitution. Times change...




First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

-Martin Niemöller


Nobody is coming for you... its all in your head. Clearly you have an established worldview that is so far removed from reality that its laughable.

First they came for your weapon... and thats it.

You don't need it, you don't deserve it. I don't know anyone who owns a gun that isn't a police officer, and the Einsatzgruppen hasn't reached my door yet. (or anyone else's, for that matter)

This whole thing is silly. Your argument is silly, baseless, and speaks to your twisted perspective of how you seem to think the world operates.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

I fully understand the shady dealings the United States Government has carried out over the years, that was never in dispute. What I'm disputing is the theory that all gun-crime is organised by some secret branch of the Government which HATES LIBERTY AND WANTS TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM!


For a site which claims to deny ignorance, it embraces it far too much.
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So the american government that has declared war on libya, afghanistan, iraq(twice), helping syrian rebels, somalia, the british and french against libya are not capable of hating american liberty and wanting to take it away?

You do realise that 9-11-2001 was a false flag done by mossad and cia, correct? And that all this monsterous beauracracy was born as a result; including the tsa airport scanners and perverts that feel you up, including children?

Governments on the verge of financial bankruptcy almost each year become quite unstable. Who do you think is orchestrating the fiscal cliff in the usa and the huge unemployment in southern europe? I bet you are naive and think nothing of anything.

The government and police are capable of no wrong. Lets not forget Occupy wall street and how cop provacateurs infiltrated the rallies and caused problems so that the regular cops could arrest enmasse.


This is why there's no point in arguing with you, why am i even attempting to? You, and many others here, live in a delusion where everything is a false flag, a conspiracy, you have been subjected so much to fear mongering by the likes of Alex Jones that your perception of everyday life is warped. I would argue with you about your 9/11 view or your 7/11 conspiracy, but there's no point. To millions those TSA body-scanners give piece of mind and helps them feel safer, and is surely a improvement to safety. But due to your extreme paranoia you believe that the scanners are the first step to a nazi-esque police state, you think that the whole world is out to get you. Your not safe to own a gun, your paranoia will eventually lead to you shooting somebody.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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Here is anouther I am sure you are familiar with!

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:41 PM
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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I know, its hopeless... I often find myself in these situations on these forums.

Thanks for lookin out.

This place is hopelessly rife with baseless paranoia, a giant tabloid that fuels itself and brainwashes its readership.

Sensibility, so rare that its a superpower.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Cynicaleye
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Don't bother arguing, these people are mentally ill.


So you're not going to post in this thread anymore? Perhaps you can convince Spacey to do the same.

Thanks for playing.

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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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In the 20th century alone as many as a 500 million died because of tyrants! All could have been prevented by a well armed populous.

Is that truth or a delusion? Dont forget where you come from friend! Millions of our forefathers fought and died to ensure us these rights. We will defend them to the end!
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by SPACEYstranger
 


Here is anouther I am sure you are familiar with!

"Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Mohandas Gandhi, an Autobiography, page 446.
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Right on... and how has that panned out?

Because according to this chart....

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Gandhi was full of it.

With all due respect.


Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by Cynicaleye
 


In the 20th century alone as many as a 500 million died because of tyrants! All could have been prevented by a well armed populous.

Is that truth or a delusion?
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Delusion. Lol.

If you actually believe that, you really are misinformed... to say the least.

Armed civilians vs two of the greatest standing armies in the history of our species. For starters. Why don't you run that through your incredibly thick skull.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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In the 20th century alone hundreds of millions died because of tyrants! All could have been prevented by a well armed populous.

Is that truth or a delusion? Dont forget where you come from friend! Millions of our forefathers fought and died to ensure us these rights. We will defend them to the end!

Who the # are you? Some modern day serf in the UK? What business do you have in this discussion at all? If you are a history major then you should know that the past has a way of repeating itsself!

Tell us what is the penalty for peaceful protest in the UK? [
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:51 PM
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Made it about ten posts in. did no one see what is in Obamacare. they are not allowed to collect information on guns and ammo. He has no choice but to use an EO. I say let him. Not that it will start a civil war or anything like that. You are far past dying for a cause. But there are still a few that will more then people will like hearing about. The UN troops will kil the wrong person and our Milarty will come home and clean house. I truely believe this will happen in the next 6 months



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:53 PM
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I have absolutely no idea what your talking about, and I really have no interest. Apparently you posses the intellectual prowess of a field mouse. Good luck with that, I hope your guns fill the void.

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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:58 PM
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Hitler, Stalin, WWII, Pol Pot et all. Didnt we have a genocide in Turkey as well? Ring a bell buddy? Or is that privilaged information in the UK?
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:00 PM
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I already responded to your ridiculous notion in my above post...

You can dream up all the speculative fiction you want, history disagrees with you.


Oh, and this field mouse is holding what I suspect is more than your lifetime earning in his little hands right now..



ahahaha. Oh, wow. Why dont you use that prudently invested wad of bills and go buy yourself an assault rifle. Then you'll be safe from big bad Obama.



Give me a break...
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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NATO has supreme authority over the United States military. We owe $16.5 trillion. They have all of the fancy weapons for population control. There is no way to win so just make the best of it.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
All could have been prevented by a well armed populous.


Or... the complete arming of certain populations would lead to even more coups, genocide, civil wars and well.. death.

Pitchforks are much more romantic.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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I notice you are still crying about your precious guns being threatened?

And I still see you care to berate me in front of the members.

Nothing you say here regarding guns is going to make any difference in the end my friend. You have no power. You are not part of a government or any party that can make a difference. In fact you are nothing apart from a temporary gun owner having a whinge on a forum that allows you to exercise your right to have a whinge.

As much as you don't like my stance on guns, I too am entitled to my say. Just because you might not like what I say does not mean I am an idiot and I would thank you very much if you would refrain from making me out to be one.

Guns are not a marker of ones education status and it's funny to see you think you are way better than me because you are a gun owner, even sad in a way.

Sure, I don't live in America and I don't get your love of guns, but then again I have grown up in a country where guns are not needed and we have a great life without them. I do not understand your need for guns at all.

It as stupid as watching you guys walk around with vibrators in your hand in public.

What is even more helarious is watching you bitch about it to your other gun friends.

Good luck with everything, I think you are going to need all the help you can get. You seem very desperate now you are furninshed with the knowledge your piece of metal might be taken away.

I really hope they are as well, the world would be a better place without guns.

Good luck mate, thanks for all your intelligent responses.

You really sealed the deal for me. See you in another forum.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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Well armed Jews in Germany would have given hell and saved millions! Well armed Russians would not have seen 30+ million killed by Stalin!



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
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Hitler, Stalin, WWII, Pol Pot et all. Didnt we have a genocide in Turkey as well? Ring a bell buddy? Or is that privilaged information in the UK?
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I find it extremely amusing that you keep going back every few minutes and adding a genocide to the list. Hows Google workin for ya, smart guy?

I could have told you that the Armenians, the Jews, the Ukrainians, former Yugoslavians, Rwandans, the Congo... most of Eastern Europe, all endured "genocides" (a debatable term) or ethnic cleanings in one extreme or another. Could have spared you the frantic searching to try and make yourself look smart.

You may fool morons like yourself, but you've got me in stitches.



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