I remember the last time I called 911 It took the police over 10 minutes to arrive to my home living in the middle of the city of 60k people. Someone tried to hot wire steal my vehicle from my own driveway. It looked as though he had a black thing in his hand like a tire iron. I chased him off with a baseball bat, that I much preferred to have been a 12 gauge shotgun. Whoever it was he was quite cunning to do so much to the vehicle without the alarm going off, but it finally did.

I get out there to find out why the alarm is screeching.... door's to the vehicle are wide open, fuse box under the dash open, hood to the motor is open and the battery partially disconnected. A person violating your private property to rob you, or to do bodily harm has no rights and that's the way it should be. A lot can happen in 10 minutes in a confrontation. I figure if he has the guts to steal my vehicle out of my driveway while I am watching TV then he knows the consequences of his actions and forfeits his life if caught. If I had been armed that night 10 years ago I would have shot the bastard.

The one thing I do fear is knifes as they are silent yes you are more able to protect yourself but I have had a knife drawn and a gun on me the one I feared most was the knife because you have to have real intent when using a knife. Because of these things that have happened to me I live in the real world and realized there are criminals and mentally deranged people and that to cant legislate to either of these groups of people.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by Brit-Tex
I am originally from the UK I now live in the great state of Texas, I now own guns because it is a right the constitution grants the American public. What people fail to understand is there are a lot of weapons in the UK I grew up in a rural area of the UK and we did go shooting and so fourth, I could go to anyone of these friends houses or my parents and obtain a gun very easily, shooting and firearms are a way of life in the country in the UK, you are taught from a young age to respect them and use them correctly.
So when I moved here to Texas I got into hunting and bought firearms I am respectful and I love the constitution that it gives us the right to own firearms legally, for sport or defense.
Please look deeper than crime stats to prove some ignorant point about guns the majority of these gun deaths are in places where gangs and criminals are using them against each other, but I sure feel alot safer in my house knowing I can protect my self in the same manner as what a criminal is using.
To my fellow Brits who harp on about the outdated 2nd amendment please remember in the USA they fought a war for thier freedoms and the founding fathers knew this might happen again if not in there life time but many decades or centuries in the future and they gave us the right to be able to stop it.

Do you feel your kids are safe at school? In the UK, that fear is non-existent. You love the 2nd Amendment because you haven't felt the devastating consequences of it yet.

I bet the chavs "tool-up" quite often with knives during football matches especially liverpool, manchester united, arsenal and the smaller teams. They get together after matches and show each other who is boss?

I would rather it be knifes than guns.

I'm just curious as to why they don't deal with real criminals...such as corrupt bankers and well:



?

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by Aisling

Originally posted by eLPresidente
They are testing us to see where we draw the lines.

We didn't fight hard enough against the wars, the vaccines, the gmo, the corruption but if they cross the line with guns, it might be game over for them.

Every American should know the bill of rights is unalienable and every American should fight for all 10 of the bill of rights as equally as they would fight for the first amendment.

We are on the right side of history folks, nothing to worry about. Let them test us and let them see where the lines will be drawn.

Yeah, and today, yet another school shooting. In the history of this country, have we ever had so many shootings in succession? Nope. Why now? They need more leverage to push their executive order through. This is not a surprise, it is expected. Most people here have said they will continue with the incidences to ramp up the game, and they have.

As a country we need to unite because tptb count on our division.

edit on 10-1-2013 by Aisling because: (no reason given)

Or maybe lunatics are deciding to copycat? Oh wait,no, that wouldn't fit in to your paranoid delusion would it? Ah the mystical "TPTB", seemingly behind everything. They must sit in a smoke filled room, discussing their evil plans, while laughing at true patriots like you trying to defend the Republic! Their plan for world domination is nearly complete, only a band of ATS hillbillies can stop them. DENY IGNORANCE!

Wow, this made me laugh. You are hilarious. Thank you for the laugh.

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by Brit-Tex
I am originally from the UK I now live in the great state of Texas, I now own guns because it is a right the constitution grants the American public. What people fail to understand is there are a lot of weapons in the UK I grew up in a rural area of the UK and we did go shooting and so fourth, I could go to anyone of these friends houses or my parents and obtain a gun very easily, shooting and firearms are a way of life in the country in the UK, you are taught from a young age to respect them and use them correctly.
So when I moved here to Texas I got into hunting and bought firearms I am respectful and I love the constitution that it gives us the right to own firearms legally, for sport or defense.
Please look deeper than crime stats to prove some ignorant point about guns the majority of these gun deaths are in places where gangs and criminals are using them against each other, but I sure feel alot safer in my house knowing I can protect my self in the same manner as what a criminal is using.
To my fellow Brits who harp on about the outdated 2nd amendment please remember in the USA they fought a war for thier freedoms and the founding fathers knew this might happen again if not in there life time but many decades or centuries in the future and they gave us the right to be able to stop it.

Do you feel your kids are safe at school? In the UK, that fear is non-existent. You love the 2nd Amendment because you haven't felt the devastating consequences of it yet.

I bet the chavs "tool-up" quite often with knives during football matches especially liverpool, manchester united, arsenal and the smaller teams. They get together after matches and show each other who is boss?

I would rather it be knifes than guns.

No no! We need to ban knives too. Cut your steak with a chop stick. Carry on.

Originally posted by Brit-Tex
The one thing I do fear is knifes as they are silent yes you are more able to protect yourself but I have had a knife drawn and a gun on me the one I feared most was the knife because you have to have real intent when using a knife. Because of these things that have happened to me I live in the real world and realized there are criminals and mentally deranged people and that to cant legislate to either of these groups of people.

edit on 10-1-2013 by Brit-Tex because: Missed out something

No, you can't. You can only minimize the possible risk they offer. Surely the logical way to do this is to keep things like guns out of their hands?

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

I fully understand the shady dealings the United States Government has carried out over the years, that was never in dispute. What I'm disputing is the theory that all gun-crime is organised by some secret branch of the Government which HATES LIBERTY AND WANTS TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM!

For a site which claims to deny ignorance, it embraces it far too much.

edit on 10-1-2013 by Cynicaleye because: (no reason given)

So the american government that has declared war on libya, afghanistan, iraq(twice), helping syrian rebels, somalia, the british and french against libya are not capable of hating american liberty and wanting to take it away?

You do realise that 9-11-2001 was a false flag done by mossad and cia, correct? And that all this monsterous beauracracy was born as a result; including the tsa airport scanners and perverts that feel you up, including children?

Governments on the verge of financial bankruptcy almost each year become quite unstable. Who do you think is orchestrating the fiscal cliff in the usa and the huge unemployment in southern europe? I bet you are naive and think nothing of anything.

The government and police are capable of no wrong. Lets not forget Occupy wall street and how cop provacateurs infiltrated the rallies and caused problems so that the regular cops could arrest enmasse.

Originally posted by Aisling

For the sake of our children, we need to fight for our freedoms, or watch them become slaves of their govt, the way other people in other countries have.

Freedom?

Freedom to own a machine designed to kill?

Sounds a lot more like a PRIVILEGE to me.... a privilege that you Americans definitely do not deserve.

Arrogant, stupid, reactionary, filled with hate... clearly not responsible enough to own a gun. Hardly responsible enough to wield a fork.

I hate to paint you all with the same brush, because I know that it's not fair, but... those who are deserving of guns are the EXCEPTION, not the RULE.

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by Brit-Tex
The one thing I do fear is knifes as they are silent yes you are more able to protect yourself but I have had a knife drawn and a gun on me the one I feared most was the knife because you have to have real intent when using a knife. Because of these things that have happened to me I live in the real world and realized there are criminals and mentally deranged people and that to cant legislate to either of these groups of people.

edit on 10-1-2013 by Brit-Tex because: Missed out something

No, you can't. You can only minimize the possible risk they offer. Surely the logical way to do this is to keep things like guns out of their hands?

But the problems is by limiting the access to law abiding citizens you don't limit the access to these two groups criminals are outside the law by definition, and the mentally ill will find ways, so how does taking the rights of law abiding citizens help I don't see it sorry, I could go back to the UK, and see some people and have a handgun or a semi automatic within a few hrs because there is a black market for something that is illegal. Again you can't legislate to criminals and the mentally ill because they are outside the law.

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Cynicaleye

Originally posted by Brit-Tex
I am originally from the UK I now live in the great state of Texas, I now own guns because it is a right the constitution grants the American public. What people fail to understand is there are a lot of weapons in the UK I grew up in a rural area of the UK and we did go shooting and so fourth, I could go to anyone of these friends houses or my parents and obtain a gun very easily, shooting and firearms are a way of life in the country in the UK, you are taught from a young age to respect them and use them correctly.
So when I moved here to Texas I got into hunting and bought firearms I am respectful and I love the constitution that it gives us the right to own firearms legally, for sport or defense.
Please look deeper than crime stats to prove some ignorant point about guns the majority of these gun deaths are in places where gangs and criminals are using them against each other, but I sure feel alot safer in my house knowing I can protect my self in the same manner as what a criminal is using.
To my fellow Brits who harp on about the outdated 2nd amendment please remember in the USA they fought a war for thier freedoms and the founding fathers knew this might happen again if not in there life time but many decades or centuries in the future and they gave us the right to be able to stop it.

Do you feel your kids are safe at school? In the UK, that fear is non-existent. You love the 2nd Amendment because you haven't felt the devastating consequences of it yet.

I bet the chavs "tool-up" quite often with knives during football matches especially liverpool, manchester united, arsenal and the smaller teams. They get together after matches and show each other who is boss?

I would rather it be knifes than guns.

It makes no difference at all what you kill someone with. If someone comes at me with a knife you can bet your last british pound I am going to pop that mother twice in the chest and once in the head. He will be TKOed for life!