Why Don't We Terra Form Venus. Its Way Cheaper?, page 4


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reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 10:27 PM by spacedoubt
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Gotcha, that'll teach me to respond to an early post without reading through,
That would be an interesting experiment unto itself. Seems like the atmosphere would precipitate a lot of it's contents pretty quickly if we could create a large shadow like that. So then we have Venus, maybe clear skies and a controllable climate. I suppose if the reflector had a low enough mass, it could be moved out of the way of large cosmic debris.


reply posted on 15-1-2013 @ 03:28 PM by grey9438
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from what ive heard is venus just suffer a runaway greenhouse affect, if it could be fixed that it would be hotter than earth but possibly habitable


reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 07:30 AM by samkent
reply to post by Saint Exupery




By varying the light coming through the shield, we can create an artificial day/night cycle of whatever duration we wish.

But the length of Venus rotation is still 243 days. It would take more than opening a shade every few hours.


reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 08:19 AM by Saint Exupery
Originally posted by samkent
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By varying the light coming through the shield, we can create an artificial day/night cycle of whatever duration we wish.

But the length of Venus rotation is still 243 days. It would take more than opening a shade every few hours.


Mmm... Good point. We'll need a reflector at the L2 point to put light on the side of Venus facing away from the Sun.



reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 08:24 AM by woogleuk
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Incorrect, while your timescale is close enough (3-5 billion years), the results will be quite different.

The sun will begin to expand as it runs out of fuel, the core will contract and the outer layers will expand, it becomes a red giant.

Through this process it will devour the inner planets, even if it doesn't get as far as Earth, it would be too hot for life.

I think it takes about 100 million years at this point to burn off the rest of it's fuel before shedding it's atmosphere into space.

After that, all that will be left will be a white dwarf, which will slowly cool down over the course of a trillion years until its temperature becomes close to absolute zero.


reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 08:36 AM by CJCrawley
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Incorrect, while your timescale is close enough (3-5 billion years), the results will be quite different. The sun will begin to expand as it runs out of fuel, the core will contract and the outer layers will expand, it becomes a red giant.


No, the process will begin with the sun getting smaller, hotter, and brighter....long before it becomes a red giant.

Anyway, take it up with Prof. Brian Cox.

You don't think I dreamt all this up, do you?


reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 08:53 AM by woogleuk
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I think I see what you were trying to say, with your "end of life" and "3 billions years", I assumed you meant it's final days.

What you may mean is that as the sun gets older, it's fuel output increases, this is an ongoing process and is happening now.

It's only small increases though, it will take about a billion years for the increase to hit 10% of what it is today.

3-4 billion years it will be at around 40%, that is probably what you were referring to.

It wont get smaller though, just brighter and hotter.

EDIT: Brian Cox is awesome
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reply posted on 18-1-2013 @ 09:06 AM by CJCrawley
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It wont get smaller though, just brighter and hotter.


Brian Cox appears to be labouring under the delusion that it will get smaller too.
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