Why Don't We Terra Form Venus. Its Way Cheaper?, page 3


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reply posted on 10-1-2013 @ 03:33 AM by wildespace
Terraforming Venus would be extremely difficult, but there are some ideas: en.wikipedia.org...

One thing people tend to forget is that Venus has an incredibly long day - 116.75 Earth days.

Compared to the hell on Venus, Mars is a paradise.


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 07:18 PM by Phage
reply to post by winterkill


If your internal pressure is less, it will crush you.
What do you mean "internal pressure"? Yes an improperly engineered sealed structure would be crushed.

This is turn will lower the pressure of the atmo as heavier elements begin to settle out.
The atmosphere of Venus is 96% CO2. What "heavier elements" are you talking about? Where would they "settle" to?

Don't say gravity, that's the wrong answer.

Gravity. What's the "right" answer?

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reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 07:51 PM by jra
Originally posted by winterkill
Also, once a life form such as algae is present in the atmosphere and begins the conversion process of the atmosphere, chemical change begins, including the breakdown of acids etc.


But how much algae would it take? Hundreds, thousands or millions of tons worth?

By the way, why has the sun not stripped the atmo off Venus as they say it did Mars?
It's way closer to the sun and has no magnetic protection.'

Don't say gravity, that's the wrong answer.


The Sun is slowly stripping away Venus' atmosphere. Venus does have a magnetosphere, it's just a weak one. And it is gravity that's keeping most of it in place, at least for the heavier elements.

Venus: Magnetic field and core
The weak magnetosphere around Venus means the solar wind is interacting directly with the outer atmosphere of the planet. Here, ions of hydrogen and oxygen are being created by the dissociation of neutral molecules from ultraviolet radiation. The solar wind then supplies energy that gives some of these ions sufficient velocity to escape the planet's gravity field. This erosion process results in a steady loss of low-mass hydrogen, helium, and oxygen ions, while higher-mass molecules, such as carbon dioxide, are more likely to be retained. Atmospheric erosion by the solar wind most probably led to the loss of most of the planet's water during the first billion years after it formed. The erosion has increased the ratio of higher-mass deuterium to lower-mass hydrogen in the upper atmosphere by a multiple of 150 times the ratio in the lower atmosphere.



reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 08:16 PM by Grimpachi
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The reason we keep mentioning pressure is it matters. Do you understand how much pressure 93 bars is? You should look it up.

Bar is a measure of pressure. 1bar = approx 14.5 psi, this equates to the average atmospheric pressure at sea level.

If you ever take up scuba diving you will realize just what that means. I don’t think we will ever be able to build submarines that fly.


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 08:23 PM by spacedoubt
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Are the Venetians Blind? I mean from being so close to the Sun and all?

I've though about Venus too, as a potential Habitable planet. But there is that Rotation problem...The Day is longer than it's year. Seems just spinning it up, might offer some benefits...I know "Just" spinning it up...like it's a simple thing to do.
Since it's rotation is opposite of the Earth, and slower...How would one go about increasing the speed?


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 08:46 PM by Advantage
Originally posted by spacedoubt
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post by 12 stranded dna



Are the Venetians Blind? I mean from being so close to the Sun and all?

I've though about Venus too, as a potential Habitable planet. But there is that Rotation problem...The Day is longer than it's year. Seems just spinning it up, might offer some benefits...I know "Just" spinning it up...like it's a simple thing to do.
Since it's rotation is opposite of the Earth, and slower...How would one go about increasing the speed?
Venetians blind... GROOOOOOAN...

How would we spin it up?? NUKE IT. Im American..


reply posted on 14-1-2013 @ 09:26 PM by Phage
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I would submit that the capability of moving Mercury would make the rest of the project trivial.
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