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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by Agarta
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Can you direct me to the area/s of the Qur'an that describe Satan as a physical entity?


I'm not a muslim, but i can direct you to where Jesus had a 1 on 1 confrontation with him in the desert when he was alone for 40 days and 40 nights and satan told him if he bowed and worshipped him he could have the entire world. I'm paraphrasing this but Jesus told him to piss off basically.


This is a perfect example of what I was saying...

Tell me, how do you know for sure that Jesus was really battling something outside of himself...how do you know for sure that this has not ben misunderstood and that Jesus was simply going through something we all are going through...the battle of what life to live for, the battle of what our true self is...how do you know with any certainty that this is not a reference for the need to go off, have alone time, seek with a true heart, and discern between your own flesh and your own spirit.

How can any of you know that this 'satan' was simply not the flesh of Jesus, a battle between the ego and the spirit, a choice of what life is worth living for...that of flesh, or that of spirit.

Think about it...Jesus knew that he could rise to power of this life of flesh...he had to weigh and measure the temptations of life itself.

We all must take the same walk that Jesus took....all the way to hanging up this life of flesh.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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Tell me, how do you know for sure that Jesus was really battling something outside of himself...how do you know for sure that this has not ben misunderstood and that Jesus was simply going through something we all are going through...the battle of what life to live for, the battle of what our true self is...how do you know with any certainty that this is not a reference for the need to go off, have alone time, seek with a true heart, and discern between your own flesh and your own spirit.


Well for one thing, it's right there written in greek which is a far more precise language than english is. I recommend you getting a concordance. Matthew 4:1-11 isn't spoken in the allegorical, it's spoken literally. I'm amazed at people who confuse the literal for allegorical, and the allegorical for the literal. Jesus only began to preach in parables after the pharisees called the Holy Spirit a demon and he did that to commence judgement against them so they couldn't be saved, not just that but he wasn't even preaching here, he was going mano-a-mano with the angel of death.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 10:03 PM
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I don't understand why there is a debate going on when this is clearly a thread for Jinns? :S

It always happens when there is a thread relating to Islam, don't get why you people try so hard to tell us basically " your religion is wrong" It's the vibe i'm getting at the moment.

Please keep this thread to Jinns only and the quotes from the Holy Quran.

Peace.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 01:33 AM
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The rebel jinns are in chains awaiting judgment, there is only one last rebel left on this planet, the hidden revealed with the full truth has all to do with the judgment of the despot ex- planetary prince, the leader of the rebel jinns, the liar and deceiver of this planet who comes from the abyss from the submerged cities. His judgment comes soon, things changed 2000 years but man still lives in the past with inaccurate information. There is a great deception currently that will be unmasked from the hidden revealed. The rebel jinns that repented 2000 years are now part of the united midwayers fostering truth and righteousness and are enlisted in the armies of Heaven led by Gabriel upon Mt Hermon Zion.
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posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 04:25 AM
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Craziness.



Genies? You think Genies are ok by God? What, are you blending religions?


You know Islam is a false religion. Respect its followers, but help turn them over to the real God, yo.

I didn't say I'm sure you know. I didn't say you should know. I said YOU KNOW. Because, you do. You're side-tracking.


Enough horseplay and genie bull@#$#


a "genie" won't do anything but give you nightmares. Terrible, terrible nightmares.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by Zatox
reply to post by LeoVirgo
 


I don't understand why there is a debate going on when this is clearly a thread for Jinns? :S

It always happens when there is a thread relating to Islam, don't get why you people try so hard to tell us basically " your religion is wrong" It's the vibe i'm getting at the moment.

Please keep this thread to Jinns only and the quotes from the Holy Quran.

Peace.


My point was that many here in this thread are placing faith in what another man has told them is truth.

Then talk of it as if they know for certain it all happened the way that man wrote that passage (pick any of them from any book).

God, what ever you want to name thee....though Thee is NAMELESS....never left a holy word of god is a book. Period.

So now on with your holy books or book...good luck with that.

LV



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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Found some interesting videos from a show in indonesia called TWO WORLDS.
Its a bit long about 20mins but a good watch for the people who agree with the op.
Here's one, with english subtitles

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posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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Here's a thought;

The Djinn (proper spelling) are also the Watchers.

If said Djinn are the Watchers - and are one and the same, they can be
equated to Aliens (EBE's, Grey Alien's) there is absolutely no proof they are harmful.

Infact, history has shown them to be anything but harmful.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
Here's a thought;

The Djinn (proper spelling) are also the Watchers.

If said Djinn are the Watchers - and are one and the same, they can be
equated to Aliens (EBE's, Grey Alien's) there is absolutely no proof they are harmful.

Infact, history has shown them to be anything but harmful.

what history??
And what watchers?



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by logical7

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
Here's a thought;

The Djinn (proper spelling) are also the Watchers.

If said Djinn are the Watchers - and are one and the same, they can be
equated to Aliens (EBE's, Grey Alien's) there is absolutely no proof they are harmful.

Infact, history has shown them to be anything but harmful.

what history??
And what watchers?


Both the Djinn and the Watchers are recorded in the Bible.
My speculation is that they are one and the same.

..and IF they are the supposed Aliens - history of the world has shown
that they are of no danger to mankind.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by logical7
Qur'an surah 15

26. We created the human being from clay, from molded mud.


Earlier when you felt I insulted you and your post, I was refering to this
and many other quotes in the dynastic religious consumation of the Hebrew doctrine.

This is just an example.
There are many such as this that need referencing.

If there is only ONE God/Allah.. ..why the "we" at the beginning of the sentence..?
edit on 11-1-2013 by HumAnnunaki because: to reference point



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki

Originally posted by logical7

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
Here's a thought;

The Djinn (proper spelling) are also the Watchers.

If said Djinn are the Watchers - and are one and the same, they can be
equated to Aliens (EBE's, Grey Alien's) there is absolutely no proof they are harmful.

Infact, history has shown them to be anything but harmful.

what history??
And what watchers?


Both the Djinn and the Watchers are recorded in the Bible.
My speculation is that they are one and the same.

..and IF they are the supposed Aliens - history of the world has shown
that they are of no danger to mankind.

oh you mean that they are neutral and cause no trouble?



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki

Originally posted by logical7
Qur'an surah 15

26. We created the human being from clay, from molded mud.


Earlier when you felt I insulted you and your post, I was refering to this
and many other quotes in the dynastic religious consumation of the Hebrew doctrine.

This is just an example.
There are many such as this that need referencing.

If there is only ONE God/Allah.. ..why the "we" at the beginning of the sentence..?
edit on 11-1-2013 by HumAnnunaki because: to reference point

about clay, clay actually helps to intensify formation of cell membranes from the lipoprotein building blocks. And our composition is very similar to contents in clay/mud.
And about "WE" its the royal address to oneself. Maybe you have heard it in old movies etc. The english translation of arabic doesnt do justice to the text, many languages have richer pronouns and some are used to show respect/authority. English has to used "WE" for lack of anything better.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 03:03 PM
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Yes - that is exactly what I mean.

It is quite possible that they (Djinns-Watchers-Aliens) were sent here
by God to teach us much like Jesuit preist's were sent out across the
globe to instill the fundemental teachings of God.

Solomon was the apparent wisest King to rule and that could be
because the Djinn tutored him in the ways of God, love and peace
for your fellow wo/man and mother Earth.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
reply to post by logical7
 


Yes - that is exactly what I mean.

It is quite possible that they (Djinns-Watchers-Aliens) were sent here
by God to teach us much like Jesuit preist's were sent out across the
globe to instill the fundemental teachings of God.

Solomon was the apparent wisest King to rule and that could be
because the Djinn tutored him in the ways of God, love and peace
for your fellow wo/man and mother Earth.

nice speculations!
But still speculations as you admitted.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
reply to post by logical7
 


Yes - that is exactly what I mean.

It is quite possible that they (Djinns-Watchers-Aliens) were sent here
by God to teach us much like Jesuit preist's were sent out across the
globe to instill the fundemental teachings of God.

Solomon was the apparent wisest King to rule and that could be
because the Djinn tutored him in the ways of God, love and peace
for your fellow wo/man and mother Earth.


I would also like to point out that Watchers-Aliens-Djinn
are what is listed in the Bible as ANGELS.

Of course, only my belief from historical accounts cross referenced with Biblical teachings.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by logical7

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki

Originally posted by logical7
Qur'an surah 15

26. We created the human being from clay, from molded mud.


Earlier when you felt I insulted you and your post, I was refering to this
and many other quotes in the dynastic religious consumation of the Hebrew doctrine.

This is just an example.
There are many such as this that need referencing.

If there is only ONE God/Allah.. ..why the "we" at the beginning of the sentence..?
edit on 11-1-2013 by HumAnnunaki because: to reference point

about clay, clay actually helps to intensify formation of cell membranes from the lipoprotein building blocks. And our composition is very similar to contents in clay/mud.
And about "WE" its the royal address to oneself. Maybe you have heard it in old movies etc. The english translation of arabic doesnt do justice to the text, many languages have richer pronouns and some are used to show respect/authority. English has to used "WE" for lack of anything better.


Your answer is fictious and unfounded when cross referenced with
all biblical religious versions beit the Quar'an - Toran - Bible etc.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki

Originally posted by logical7

Originally posted by HumAnnunaki

Originally posted by logical7
Qur'an surah 15

26. We created the human being from clay, from molded mud.


Earlier when you felt I insulted you and your post, I was refering to this
and many other quotes in the dynastic religious consumation of the Hebrew doctrine.

This is just an example.
There are many such as this that need referencing.

If there is only ONE God/Allah.. ..why the "we" at the beginning of the sentence..?
edit on 11-1-2013 by HumAnnunaki because: to reference point

about clay, clay actually helps to intensify formation of cell membranes from the lipoprotein building blocks. And our composition is very similar to contents in clay/mud.
And about "WE" its the royal address to oneself. Maybe you have heard it in old movies etc. The english translation of arabic doesnt do justice to the text, many languages have richer pronouns and some are used to show respect/authority. English has to used "WE" for lack of anything better.


Your answer is fictious and unfounded when cross referenced with
all biblical religious versions beit the Quar'an - Toran - Bible etc.

my answer is based on scientific research i read and a bit that i know about language especially arabic.
And i dint know you'l go to bible to learn the truth about what i said, would've helped more if you asked someone else knowing arabic.
But obviously you dont want a discussion. Just want to refute whatever i say by any mumble jumble made up reason that just appears intelligent.
Good luck anyways!



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Arabic..?

Please tell me you DO mean Hebrew? (the actual written account)

I do not reply whimsically as you would believe.
My studies are extremely in depth and with foundation.

I will take your debate if you promise to stop with your insults -
and if you are prepared to learn a new understanding of what is truth!?!

I am prepared to learn ALL truths.



posted on Jan, 12 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by HumAnnunaki
reply to post by logical7
 


Arabic..?

Please tell me you DO mean Hebrew? (the actual written account)

I do not reply whimsically as you would believe.
My studies are extremely in depth and with foundation.

I will take your debate if you promise to stop with your insults -
and if you are prepared to learn a new understanding of what is truth!?!

I am prepared to learn ALL truths.

maybe in your indepth study you missed a tiny point of Qur'an being in arabic!! And not hebrew.
And i'l love to discuss with you if you come with a bit humility.





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