So, Mohammad let his guard down and made a mistake...and God fixed the matter. The matter was settled right away so its no big deal for
Actually, I think you'll find that there is a diversity of views within Islam about what happened. In any case, you'll notice that in this thread, I
simply noted that the current
form of the verses adequately shows that the hypothesis that Allah was associated with Hubal originates in
Koranic times (before the written Koran, the one which has been flawlessly transmitted ever since).
Even if the proposed association was fully refuted by the verses in question, the hypothesis had to have been already proposed in order to be refuted.
It is unsurprising that some would disagree with the finality of the refutation, and so reopen inquiries from time to time. No modern person can be
the "originator" of the idea; the idea has long since originated.
Hi, again. And yes, you and I have discussed other aspects of this before. I am trying to stay reasonably close to the current topic, which I
understand to be when and where the ideas which associate Allah and Hubal originate. You are right, of course, that I am not advocating that Allah
ever actually was worshipped by Muslims or proto-Muslims as Hubal, or as a "moon god."
So, that said, yes, the verses clearly indicate that somebody
early on had the ideas that Allah had three female kin or intimates, that at
least one or two of the three were his daughters, and that the kin were those three well-established goddesses specifically.
(capital-T capital-G) is a descriptive term for an instance in mythology where one goddess has three aspects or three goddesses
are worshipped jointly, corresponding with three ages of mortal women: youth, motherhood and maturity. The proper noun is not especially related to
theories which look for other "three's" in storytelling, although no doubt the motif played some role in inspiring such searches. In any case, the
term is a succinct description of these goddesses and their relationship to one another, not a theory about them. I didn't make them a trio; that's
how they're presented in the Koran, and how they were presented by somebody else as the hypothesis the Koranic verses are discussing.
You also need to think about the variety of things "moon god" means in comparative mythology. There are systems in which the moon is a supernatural
being, or the "body" of one. There are other systems in which a particular god has responsibility for the natural moon's motions and phases. And as
we get into the most developed polytheisms, we have Odin-Hermes, a knower of hidden things who might be called upon in times of war (not all of Zeus'
"messages" were singing telegrams). In other words, Odin-Hermes, a god with a lunar aspect and heritage, is a god not so unlike what you report,
with comfort, that some modern scholars think Hubal might've been.