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I mean, the Bible states this clearly. "the only begotten of the Father" that means, Jesus has no actual brothers/sisters. because he is the only begotten from his actual parent. That should explain it right there for you, now try a bit harder to understand what he meant.
And you say yourself the Bible was changed, so how do you know Jesus didn't claim to be God?
However, to be precise. You've got to understand something very "mysterious" about the Trinity here. Jesus IS the Father in Flesh.
Those who have seen me have seen the Father" Hm... explain this one, mr. cheshy.
Negative. Where in the Bible does it say there is one law, love? Jesus gave MANY commandments.
And in fact, he states very clearly that the ONLY thing you can do is to BELIEVE IN HIM, not love.
"Jesus told them, "This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.""
To emphasize further, Jesus ALSO commands to HATE. Oh yes, he sure does. Don't believe me? Check out Luke 14:26
"26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple."
You are to hate your very own family, or you are indeed NOT following as his greatest followers did.
"He sent his son, the firstborn of his creation to tell us we were forgiven for everything we have done against love."
Um, no. again, you have misinterpreted. "Only those who have been born again can enter into the Kingdom of Heaven" -Jesus Christ. So, you must be born again. You are not automatically forgiven and renewed and do not automatically have a free ticket to heaven. That's absurdity. Do you not understand forgiveness? No, no you don't. Nor do you understand the new testament.
"The father resurrected Jesus to prove that he gave his son authority to tell us these things."
Jesus, the Son, did rise from the grave, but "the resurrection" of Christ has not yet occurred, be careful with your wording (oh, wait, you're not going to be.)
Also, thank you for clarifying you are not the Christ
"This message is for everyone,
I too have been made a son and although I am not the Christ,
far from it indeed, I am on the path that leads towards being like him."
1 Corinthians 1:10-17.
10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I did not baptize any of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 so no one can say that you were baptized in my name. 16 (Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I don’t remember if I baptized anyone else.) 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel—not with wisdom and eloquence, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power.
"Any separation is created by man not by God." "Jesus did not come to create separation." "he came to bring all humanity together under one God. It is man who created separation by establishing the church."
ABSOLUTELY FALSE. God CREATED HELL, a place for the Devil and his followers which were also Fallen Angels. Hell is NOT TO TOUCH NOR BE ANY PART OF HEAVEN. Jesus also commands you To "PUT EVIL AWAY FROM YOU" as in, SEPARATE FROM EVIL. HE also casts demons into pigs "away from him".
No, Jesus came so that the world "MAY" or "SHOULD" or "SHALL" have everlasting life. The whole world, as clearly stated in the Bible, does NOT GET saved. As only those whose names are written in the "Book of Life" are saved. And NOT everyone is written in the Book of Life. The bible states clearly, once again, that there are many who burn in hell. It also states very specifically that the Devil and the Antichrist and False Prophet and the like will burn forever "around the clock" for eternity. The antichrist comes to earth according to the Bible. Thefore, that's at least one (and there are many more) That will not go to Heaven and IS NOT *EVER* SAVED.
Therefore, the whole world is NOT SAVED. Satan was removed from Heaven, because he tried to bring Evil into it. He was SEPARATED FROM HEAVEN. like his MINIONS were, TOO!
3 Dear friends, although I was very eager to write to you about the salvation we share, I felt compelled to write and urge you to contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people. 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only sovereign and Lord.
5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. 9 But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 Yet these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.
11 Woe to them! They have taken the way of Cain; they have rushed for profit into Balaam’s error; they have been destroyed in Korah’s rebellion.
12 These people are blemishes at your love feasts, eating with you without the slightest qualm—shepherds who feed only themselves. They are clouds without rain, blown along by the wind; autumn trees, without fruit and uprooted—twice dead. 13 They are wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shame; wandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.
14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.” 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
17 But, dear friends, remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. 18 They said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the people who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.
20 But you, dear friends, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.
22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.
"I do not separate myself from them, I only encourage them to become like me."
Um, no. You do not encourage people to become like you, you encourage people to become like JESUS. You are to DENY
yourself and DIE in the Lord. as the Bible, ahem, the Gospel, states. May, God have mercy, there be no more like you!
Though, sadly. there are many here like you, and will be many more. You are all Children of the World, not Children of my Lord, Jesus. It's time to repent and get right, be born again AWAY from the World.
"What I give you I give you freely because I do not own the message." "A man with faith much like you. A man with a gift much like you."
No, we're not the same, I'm nothing like you or deceivers like you. There's one thing worse than Satanic messages here on ATS, and that is messages that SEEM to be Gospel Truth but really aren't at all and are, in fact, deceptive. and in no part of the
Ahem. "Many will come in my name and say "I am the Christ"" Jesus says, and he will tell them "I never knew ye"
While you have denied yourself as the Christ, once again, I think you're about half a generation to one generation shy
of doing so. You are the sheer evolution of the anti-christ.
Don't ever claim to come doing ANYTHING in Jesus' name, as he clearly states there is ONE work for a man to do,
and that is to believe in Him. Not do do a THING else, not give messages, notta!
I do however, give personal exception to the apostles and original writers of the Bible. I do believe somewhere in the Bible it also gives this exception. Yes, Jesus does say listen to scripture. So aside from scripture, there are NO messages for anyone that come directly from God or Jesus. If there ARE, it will not be identified as "I believe
I was sent by God" or "I believe Jesus sent me to tell you this." These are false witnesses. The OP is a false,
deluded, confused witness that is aiming (probably without knowing it, but may know it) to deceive people out of
frustration of their own denial of the REAL GOSPEL, and the real Truth. In other words, "I can't accept the real gospel, so I'll make my own with a NEW interpretation of the New testament and I'll butter it up because that's how God would want me to be;
very loving and soft like Bundt cake. It can't be true if it's not loving. As long as it's full of flowers and ponies and strawberry
shortcake it must be from God." NOPE.
1 Corinthians 12:7-11 ESV / 9 helpful votes
To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good. For to one is given through the Spirit the utterance of wisdom, and to another the utterance of knowledge according to the same Spirit, to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by the one Spirit, to another the working of miracles, to another prophecy, to another the ability to distinguish between spirits, to another various kinds of tongues, to another the interpretation of tongues. All these are empowered by one and the same Spirit, who apportions to each one individually as he wills.
James 3:1 Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
First of all, if Jesus brought you a message to bring to the world. Why does it start and end at ATS when you sober up tomorrow? Oh, not from alcohol necessarily. But you are unsober from something. and the Bible tells you not to do that. ATS is not even close to being "the world".
This message won't ever get anywhere other than the handful of people who have now read it and responded.
Therefore, you have just proven Jesus to be INCAPABLE of delivering a message if he so used you. What I mean is, he didn't use you to deliver any message. You ... are ... a ... LIAR.
Originally posted by dodol
reply to post by sacgamer25
Yours is the most positive post i've ever seen from religious people
IMHO, any religion and all religious people should put Love as the only priority in their teachings.
for example, instead of pushing people to pay tithes, maybe they should encourage the followers to give the money to those who really need (beggars), buy things for children at orphanages, and so onedit on 12-1-2013 by dodol because: make it clearer to readedit on 12-1-2013 by dodol because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Minori
Here is something I do know:
John 14:6 ESV
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1 John 2:19-27
They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us. But you have an anointing from the Holy One, and all of you know the truth. I do not write to you because you do not know the truth, but because you do know it and because no lie comes from the truth. Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist--he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father. And this is what he promised us--even eternal life. I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit--just as it has taught you, remain in him.