Originally posted by ecoparity
reply to post by GrandStrategy
What a load of BS. Typical attempt to divert the issue.
"UK crime stats are not comparable because we do a better job of recording violent crime and label some crimes as violence others MAY not".
So, you do a better job of tracking crime but those crimes STILL EXIST. As for the concept that the UK has some types of violent crime that are not considered violence elsewhere? Complete BS.
It's very simple, go to the FBI crime stats page, the UK home office crime stats page, the Australia national crime stats page and do your own comparison. The fact is that while the US is showing a 50 percent reduction in crime these other "liberal gun free utopias" are both showing around 40 percent INCREASES in crime in the same time period.
Stop getting your stats and info from biased sources.edit on 9-1-2013 by ecoparity because: (no reason given)
I'm astounded you managed a star for such utter, made-up nonsense.
It is an absolute fact that affray is recorded as a violent crime in the UK, no exceptions. This simply isn't true in other places. Usually, unless there's a physical injury the police simply do not log it, that's what happens in a lot of countries. When I say that I'm not using biased sources or diverting the issue, I'm repeating relevant fact.
One of my sources for this is the Daily Mail report on the same figures Ben Swann himself uses. If you're telling me the Daily Mail are a biased source which wants to make crime in Britain look less severe than it is then a lol to your sir
As for the licensing laws, alcohol consumption laws and the binge drinking culture in Britain - these are facts agreed on by all sides. There is nobody, anywhere, apart from you from the looks of things, who denies the significance of alcohol in Britains violent crime rates. It is, as I told you already, readily accepted that half or more of violent crimes are fueled by alcohol. There is no disagreement, politically, on the role alcohol plays in the incidence of violent crime. Only someone from outside of the UK could think alcohol wasn't worth bringing into the discussion!
The Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2006 starts with alcohol related crimes for a reason.
That's twice you called BS and twice I'm telling you the matter of fact truth. You could do with actually learning something about the world before storming into threads and acting the fool, talking about subjects you obviously know nothing about.
I can't believe you said the logging of affray doesn't differ by country, you actually slandered it BS, wow.
shall i keep going?