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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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why do they need your email to sign in other than to sell it to advertisers so they can spam your account.


I have recieved ZERO spam email from my youtube/gmail and now linked account.



its a free video sharing website, now it's become a data mine.

It was a data mine BEFORE google purchased it



congress and parliaments around the world should be passing laws stopping this crap.

No, they should be busy running their country, not catering to the illiterate


no email should be required to log into any website unless you voluntarily agree to it.

It's not required, it's only required if you want an account, you don't need an account to watch videos unless they are flagged


an email is not required to login into a website, only a password and log in name.

an email address is required to create an account so you can log in. Very few sites just allow you to create a name and instantly access the site, 99% of them require a verification, usually a hash coded url in an email.




posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:04 PM
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I think the delusion of true anonymity of the Internet should be put to rest. TPTB have had the capability to monitor and track anyone's activity on the internet including email for a long time. To be safe, just assume that everything you do is being logged and recorded by Big Brother.
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:09 PM
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to be safe, just assume that everything you do is being logged and recorded by Big Brother.


If you are in the land of the free and home of the brave, as well as England, you are better off knowing it's being watched, not just assuming.

The NSA has been intercepting all communications traffic, domestic and international, that funnel through telco networks in the US since 911, openly admitted. Retroactively legalized by the Bush Administration.

But let me pose a question to everyone worried.

what exactly are you doing with your youtube or google account that you are so worried about? What is it, exactly, that worries you?

Anyways, here's where I'm willing to concede to the paranoid masses.... I think a government mandate should be set in place as such to allow us to access the data these groups have amassed on us, maybe google already offers this, I don't know. Facebook allows you the option to get your entire facebook history on cd if you want it. something like that, which would allow us to see the actual data collected, would be nice.

Keep in mind that a lot of what's being tracked isn't personally identifying. Some of it is, google wise, but not identifying you as you, merely the habits your google account has, so they can offer up ads and services relevant to you



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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Hello friend. Youre right. But my point was that for someone to say "Ill never go there again...Ill find anther site"...seems pointless. Jsut watch it anyway. thanks!



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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So many jimmies rustled in this thread, so many butts that hurt



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:22 PM
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Originally posted by Daughter2

Originally posted by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies

They don't track every aspect of your life unless you link them (optional) and you use their free services.

You sound like you are suffering from some serious first-world problems "My free stuff isn't perfect enough for me!!!"


I didn't link them, so how do they know what subjects I posted about?


The same way ATS knows to show me ads on the home page about gas grills, for crying out loud! If you fear your privacy being invaded on the internet, I've got some bad news for you. You should probably sit down for this one!



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:27 PM
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Who is to say that information dont end up in the wrong hands? Anyway I can see this from both sides of the fence, and im not paranoid about the information they collect. Its just a matter of principles and I dont like the way google does business. Sure they ask us if we want to use our real name ect but being asked more than once is just anoying, one NO THANK YOU should be enough. period. Same goes for how badly they wanted peoples mobile number a year or so ago.

I still think we have the right to voice our opinion about how they do their things at google. Just cause youtube is free to use doesnt make the users opinions less important.. Google needs to know if they do stinky things.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
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Earlier you were the one ranting about how google and youtube are one in the same. Don't tell me that google or youtube are "free."


This is getting insane. You pay (whether it's your phone data plan or your home internet) to ACCESS THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beyond that, you pay nothing for YouTube or Google or ATS or Twitter or Facebook, on and on and on!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not one single penny. Again, I sometimes see a targeted ad on the ATS home page. Something I have been researching and would be in the market to purchase. So? That's ATS making some money, not me paying ATS.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Youtube keeps urging me to use my full name on my Youtube account. The thing is, I have a fairly unique name, and if I'd wanted to do that, I would have used my real name instead of what I actually used, right?

So far, Youtube hasn't really pushed the issue, it lets me continue without adding my phone number and stuff, but I wouldn't be surprised if it started getting huffy and restricting my privileges just to get me to consent.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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make a fake account
problem fixed

You do not have to use gmail as your email address. When they began to do this and started to ask me to use my real name on youtube i just deleted my gmail account along with my youtbue account and opened a new one
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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it don't bother me, as its not like they don't no who people are and not many people seem to abuse anyone as there name is public



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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Isnt this thread a bit late? They started doing this almost TWO years ago.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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when u create a gmail account it automatically creates a youtube account. basically there are thousands, millions even of ppl with a youtube account they dont know they have. they're brother and sister and face and twitter are like mommy and daddy.

would not be surprised if eventually just creating a gmail account would create al 4. if that isnt the way it is already.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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I was recently told I could no longer sign in with my YouTube user name, that I had to use my ethernet address.

If you want more privacy stay off the internet, live under a rock.

I am too old to really do anything about changing the Fugged up world in which I live, but I decided to come out of my comfort zone anyway and rage against the machine rather than be counted among those that did nothing to stand against it. Even if only from a keyboard.

Supposedly the pen is mightier than the sword, right?

Then again who cares about opinions anyway.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite



They are gradually consolidating everything so that you will have no choices anymore on the internet. They will soon monopolize the entire internet. The internet is dead.


Take a look at this: Cloud surfing: US surveilance act ‘grave threat’ to EU sovereignty

It's being going on for a while and they refer to it as "federated authentication". What it really is, is a sneaky method to share data between sites with your consent.

If you want some anonymity, use Tor or Jondo

Be careful not to abuse it though.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 03:37 PM
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It seems to me that some people these days are simply coming to see ANYTHING successful beyond their own efforts in life as inherently evil or something to be brought down somehow and penalized. Google is not inherently evil. Their Motto 'Don't be Evil' kinda makes the point, in fact.

Google got to be near Godlike so fast by exploiting the slow and small thinking people in media and other areas that left big gaps google has filled like water filling every possible area it can find. It's done it with things like this:


Google's "20% Time", inspired by Sergey Brin's and Larry Page's Montessori School experience, is a philosophy and policy that every Google employee spend 20% of their time (the equivalent of a full work day each week) working on ideas and projects that interest that employee. They are encouraged to explore anything other than their normal day-to-day job. As a result 50% of all Google's products by 2009 originated from the 20% free time, including Gmail. Real break-through happens when we are free from others' expectations and driven by individual passion.
Source

That freedom to use the resources of a multi-billion dollar corp as Google has become to explore your own personal pet projects has gone interesting places ..but it's done great things too. It's certainly made Google explode into something almost universal without even having particularly MEANT to from the start, IMO.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by sconner755
This is nonsense.

Google doesn't force you to do anything. You can choose to use their services or not.

More whiny entitlement mentality.


hahahah what?? how did you spin this into entitlement??



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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I've edited my first post now because my subsequent posts might be more helpful in finding solutions to this.

Just get another gmail acct. I'm sure it doesn't say you have to use an existing one. Logout of gmail, create a new gmail acct. You can have more than one gmail. I have three, not sure if there's a limit to how many.
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:23 PM
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Originally posted by Nina2010

Originally posted by sconner755
This is nonsense.

Google doesn't force you to do anything. You can choose to use their services or not.

More whiny entitlement mentality.


hahahah what?? how did you spin this into entitlement??


How can whining about being "forced" to use a company's free services and hardware NOT be about entitlement?

The OP wants to use Google's free servers and software to store videos, and complains that Google requires a gmail id to do so.

The OP is perfectly free to pay for their own server to host their videos, but instead would rather complain about the requirements to use somebody else's free servers and software.

It's pure entitlement mentality. Google doesn't force people to do anything.

Do you think you have an inherent right to access Google's databases and video servers?



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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If you are commenting on videos, its public anyways right?
Don't comment what you don't want read by others.
If your user name is whatever, then anybody can always google whatever and see everything you did with that username. I'm no longer familiar with how Google 's algorithm works nowadays, but it used to be keyword brought the search up first.

Use different usernames for each service you join or subscribe to. That way nosey friends won't keyword search what else you get up to on the web.

Try reading the T & C on websites you join, don't just click agree.

If there are privacy options you don't like that you think are new and out of line, try finding out if you can opt out of them. Quite often you can. Not sure about this one though. If you can't find out how on the website in question, then google Your question if you can. Others are asking the same question and there are answers to be found. If this is very recent , not many have asked it yet.
I didn't watch your linked video of people pissed off, look at the comments, the answer could be in them.
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