reply to post by Akragon
And there is no hell in the all-inclusive Christ, nor the desire to do evil in his love. The solution therefore is already at hand, freely available
to all who hunger and thirst for righteousness or goodness, which is it's own reward.
Jesus Christ and his great work is the tree of life, which transcends the law or "should and shouldn't" setting us free for the sake of freedom to
freely love as we are loved.
"Love, and do as you will."
~ Sr. Augustine
That said, we must not then immediately condemn the condemners or the self righteous in their faith that all outside the faith are destined for
eternal hellfire and damnnation for their lack of it, and weren't we all in the same boat at somepoint or another, unaware, blind, or even in some
state of rebellion - therefore once saved, who can go out and immediately condemn their neighbor or "save" them under the threat of hellfire and
damnation, what "love" is there in that?
The love of Jesus is REAL love, and therefore it must be unconditional, all-inclusive and invitational, it cannot be coercive or it's just not the
love of Christ.
But my oh my what a giant BEAM then is in the Church's eye, how to remove it, that's the key.
And when we manage to do that as Christian people, then people will no longer be repulsed by Christianity, but instead drawn to it, by our love.
It's a very subtle distinction however, where there is nothing that "the devil" (within) would rather do than to uproot the tree of life and
replace it, yet again, immediately with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil before we even know what happened.
The difficulty here then is the lack of faith in the inherent goodness of man and his desire to do good and to be good, even in the face of free will
choice ie: freedom.
And who is the righteous one among us who would condemn the unrighteous?
And who, once liberated by grace, would the place others under the yoke of the law? Such a one cannot yet have come under grace to begin with.
Such is the great beam in the eye of modern "Churchianity" who unwittingly rob the Great Work of Jesus Christ of all it's value, by turning it into
a conditional framework as well as rod with which to strike the sheep and scatter them, instead of speaking with his voice and drawing them towards
I know that in his day, Jesus wasn't too pleased with such people, and yet now here we have his own church filled with such nonsense as that which he
himself vehemently opposed and gave his very life to uphold and protect (Liberation and the absolute freedom to love absolutely).