reply to post by Freeborn
I am from Northern Ireland and I am a Unionist, I like to make a point of stating there is a difference between Unionists and Loyalists (mostly in
I do not support any form of violence but I do support peaceful protest.
This is about so much more than just a flag flying over City Hall, think the 'straw that broke the camels back'.
The Union flag as far as I am aware flew over Belfast City Hall everyday because of the disproportionate amount of Ulstermen who fought and died in
the two World Wars.
The 'Good Friday Agreement' was completely one sided and so for the past 14 years Unionists and Loyalists have seen an erosion of their identity and
rights. I personally was refused planning permission to build a house in the village I was born and grew up in because there wasn't enough people of
the 'other' religion living there and so planning was only being given to that group, in any other country this is called Ethnic cleansing (and I
haven't even begun on how the IRA ethnically cleansed certain Counties)
We have 'Positive Discrimination' enshrined in law, this means whether you are the right person for a job or not you won't get it unless you are the
right religion, this is especially enforced within the police, where 50% of recruits must be Catholic with 50% being 'Other' even though there is
approx 40-45% of the population being Catholic.
I am an Atheist, yet, as I went to a state school I get classed as a Protestant for recruitment purposes. to explain that further as a lot of you
will have only IRA propaganda to go on, Catholics tended to segregate themselves into Church run (Catholic only) schools whereas State schools as with
the rest of the UK allowed anyone to attend. If you were a Catholic at a state school unless you specify otherwise when seeking employment you get
classed as a Protestant as well.
In recent months and years Dissident Republicans have been increasing their attacks, not long ago a prison officer was murdered on his way to work by
them and events like this are losing IRA/Sinn Fein support, so you can see why them having the flag removed (knowing how inflammatory and insulting it
was) helps them hold on to some of their supporters.
Prison Officer murdered
I am also at a loss to understand why the Alliance Party, a supposed 'cross community' party and whose only MP was elected in EAST BELFAST (where the
trouble is) chose to pick sides in the vote instead of abstaining, and when they picked a side they picked that of ones not in their constituency.
Would a truly neutral party not of stayed out of this? And Politicians lying to get elected, nothing new there, but this affects much more than if we
have top pay uni tuition fees or not, this is about National Identity, so you can understand anger towards the 'Alliance Party'
I can't see how there is going to be a way back from this, every day that goes past is hardening attitudes on all sides. The Police have actually
said they are losing patience with them.
Last night on the news it was shown how bricks got thrown at peaceful protesters returning home, and the police response, 2 Land Rover units moved on
those throwing bricks and 40+ Land Rovers moved on the protesters and people wonder about why they then fight against the police.
Yes, I am embarrassed by the thugs out rioting, they do not support me but I do understand why they are doing it. I heard it before, shoe is on the
other foot now, and this is true, but to all those who think a United Ireland is something they want to live to see, you do realise that will only
come around following a civil war and it would be a very bloody one at that...you sure you want to live through that?, I don't..
From a conspiracy point of view they are going to use all this as an excuse to limit/attack/monitor social networks even further.
9-1-2013 by biggilo because: (no reason given)