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reply posted on 8-1-2013 @ 11:01 PM by Logos23

Originally posted by BigfootNZ

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Was I the only one that laughed out loud when AJ started mocking Piers in English accent? Lighten up people!

Oh but what a #e storm would have erupted on this site and else wear in the good old us of a had PM done a slurred southern red neck drawl in responding to something AJ said?

lighten up? it was uncalled for pure and simple (and yeah its a tiny thing really but still, shows how childish AJ can be).

There's mocking the elite, then there's making an ass of yourself.

I agree...had it been in reverse it would have been a major talking point on here.

I am English and I can laugh at myself and so did have a little chuckle at his attempts at taking off the English accent........but the other side of the coin is that most of the British people can't stand Piers Morgan and Alex doe's have some British fan's and supporters....so the attempt at mocking the English accent was uncalled for and could easily be interpreted as being disrespectful.
But I can't say that personally I will lose sleep over it....but this very immature show of mockery does question his credibility for those who are unbiased.

reply posted on 8-1-2013 @ 11:08 PM by LightOrange

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I get it - it is because he's from the UK and he's come to the US and is yelling ban guns.
The colonies had to stockpile weapons in secret remember? The redcoats didn't want them having guns.

It's sorta like Muslims that come here, then want to force their women to wear burkas and force on them this weird honor code they brought with them. We say, why come to America and try to change it into what you hated that you left?

Alex feels that this is an American issue, and that foreigners need to shut up about it, as maybe they might like to take a peice of the US for themselves, and it might be easier if there were no guns anywhere.

Think...Red Dawn stuff. It would be a lot more difficult to invade anyplace that has an armed populace. I mean, especially with China owning so much of our debt, for them to be saying that we need to get rid of our guns? No, don't think so.

I mean, it's just a mindset of protecting one's own. I notice that gun owners and 2nd amendment rights tend to really feel like it is a deep part of their psyche - this idea of defending one's own. My friends who are more anti-gun tend to think everything is fine we just need more peace and love.

I'm not saying conservative and liberal, because there are a LOT of liberals in the south that are pro-2nd amendment. I thought liberals LEARNED that a long time ago when this very issue turned the south from blue to red.

That's right - take GA for instance. It used to be solid blue. Liberals start yelling gun control and NO ONE here hardly likes that, except maybe in the cities. Republican ranks SWELL.

reply to post by LightOrange

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Exactly. Piers doesn't have the wit to form an argument on his own, and resorts to name calling and childlike "shunterruptions". He doesn't listen to the other side of the argument, instead waiting for a pause to continue his seemingly scripted rhetoric.

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I have watched this and watched this and read this comment and that comment. ..what this reminded me of was a long overdue and passion built up school yard beat down of an arrogant condescending prick.. I am not a huge fan of AJs methods. (I remember the Wall Street lady Greater Good vaccine doc replied she had a different method of informing people rather than beating them over the head ie. AJ style). However, I might liken this to Sid Viscous and Johnny Rotten lifestyle and method aside they brought us punk in an age of hippi beads. He brings light to a lot of things. I have no proof he works for Stratfor. All is circumstantial. I seen him disrupting a peaceful demonstration in Austin. I see him rant and rave. Having said that... My Uncle is a high ranking retired police officer whose view of current situations is you bring down the US from the inside. He shared an interesting story about McCain, Newsweek, qnd the FOP endorsement that I will never share out of respect for hm. But his view is our threat is domestic. The reason I bring him up is he used to tell me all the time the hardest part of policing is trying to make every day unique and every situation unique and after awhile it really builds on you and you have to really fight to not take the dirt bag who beat his wife or kids a lot or bullying thug on a long trip to jail. I think AJ took this bully on the long trip. Not saying he was Mohammad Ali but more like a bull in the china shop. Are we gonna leave him on the battlefield wounded? Hamburger Hill style? His message was SPOT ON!!!!! He had a chance and he vollied across the bow in broad daylight. Another way we can lose is internal strife over AJ while forgetting the message "deny ignorance". In the commonwealth we have a saying important enough for a motto. It came out of 1792. It is not only visible on our flag but in our communities. United We Stand, Divided We Fall. The answer to 1776 is 1792.

reply to post by LoveChild

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After watching AJ vs. PM I couldn’t care less about being awakened if it comes from AJs mouth. That guy is a lunatic and is to abrasive for my tastes.

reply to post by Southern Guardian

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You have a point, Piers was calmer. However I still can't get over the fact that on the next nights show a guest said he wished someone would challenge AJ to a boxing match and bring an automatic weapon so that they could "pop him" (if i remember correctly) and the lot of them supported the idea. In a debate on gun control the anti-gun supporters supported the use of an automatic firearm on an opponent of theirs based on personal feelings of disgust over an opinion.

It really gave me a pretty good idea of what CNN and Piers' thinking are. Extremely hypocritical. It wasn't an interview, it was a chance to make gun supporters look like radicals. Piers achieved that, so I suppose he got the better of that exchange. However the entire piece was loaded from the beginning, and the way Piers handled it that night and the next night really indicated the type of person he is. Because of that, in my opinion neither gained any ground over the other, as they both looked like ridiculous children arguing over their interpretation of the school rules.

reply to post by LoveChild

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actually, 9/11 has more to do with gun grabbing than most people think. does Section 1021 of the national defense authorization act for the fiscal year of 2012 benefit from confiscation of firearms? i think alex jones won and could have cited more and more historical events where people in power exhibited gross misconduct like disarming the citizens before massacring them wholesale. i mean you wanna tell me about sandy hook i can tell you about Tiananmen Square Massacre, wounded knee creek, Tȟašúŋke Witkó, the hundred years war, the Reichstag fire,El Centauro del Norte, Shimabara no ran. if they want our guns they will deal with Óglaigh na america and not just the sheepish Óglaigh following orders like the ss, the VC, the khmer rouge, tokugawa retainers, unit 731 etc but the ones who want to be free from an opressive William Heselrig wannabe. sorry alex jones doesn't sound like henry kissenger ordering a philly cheese steak sandwich whenever he's talking about something as serious as confiscating guns because someone with armed bodyguards doesn't want people without bodyguards or dictatorship power to have assault rifles. also if you think banning assault rifles would be effective, go buy an ak-47 at Baldwin Village, you will wish you got one at a gun store

reply to post by Southern Guardian

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If only being calm & collected for the first time in your career meant that your standpoint was more valid...

Originally posted by Shdak
Watch the video of Pier Morgan debating GOA Larry Pratt, after you do that ask the question again

YouTube Link

I understand why AJ went off the way he did, you not going to beat CNN at there game, it didn't matter what Alex said, it would have been turned around to make it fit their agenda... they did it with Pratt and they made sure they had the last word. You can't debate a one sided point of view from Morgan.

edit on 1/8/2013 by Shdak because: added text

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To the newb ATS members who think Piers Morgan is some type of collected saint, you surely don't know him.

Watch the interview he had with Pratt from GOA and I do believe another ATS member linked to Morgan's tweets.

Stop playing into this game, I repeatedly said in this thread that Piers invited AJ knowing exactly how it was going to go down and the best way for him to win was to play the opposite role (be the protagonist and win the viewers over).

I mean, can some of you people really not think for yourself?

reply to post by BuzzCory

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he's not a legal citizen therefore has no first amendment rights and can be deported for saying we should not have assault rifles because members of foreign press cannot undermine our constitution while physically in america. we deported a communist before for promoting communism in the press while not being a citizen. the uk can hang piers morgan if the uk doesn't want them.

reply to post by LoveChild

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actually just piers