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Originally posted by J.Smit
reply to post by Evolet
Try again, girl. I have the dubious honour of satan physically having tried to kill me for leaving it and warning others against it. Deities are man-made objects/gods, made by people who do not know or do not want to accept the Truth and the One God: Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Get right with God. And not the RCC or Charismatics. a True faith based on God's Word.
As for satan and its devils (often wrongly called demons): they were angels that rebelled agains God and were cast out of heaven. Not gods. They merely pose as other gods, to get people away from God. YHWH. I AM.
[edit on 2008/11/5 by J.Smit]
John was conveying the story of a vision that is not a literal happening but is spiritual in nature, with employment of symbolism.
This is Jesus giving clear indication that He is one with the Father and the Holy Ghost, and therefore "they" are one and the same God.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by mikromarius
You don't believe that Satan is literally a snake, do you?
Yes, or actually, a serpent that could mean some kind of reptilian.
I imagine the Book of Genesis was compiled and standardized in Babylon.
The Jews would have found themselves confronted by the Sumerian Creation Myth that holds that a serpent created the world.
So, to counteract that foreign concept of God, they made it a clear distinction between their God and the Babylonian god.
This is the worse way to explain the trinity because this one goes directly against the Bible. The Apostles had to fight with a few heresies and one of them was the idea that Jesus was not really human, like we are. If you are actually the Almighty God ruling and sustaining the Universe, and at the same time, there is someone looking like a person claiming the same thing for himself, there seems to be a problem. I believe that someone who likes the H2O analogy would, when pressed admit that they are the same person. If that is so, then the one on Earth is a hologram. I John 4:3 says, " And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
Ok, I can go with water can be solid liquid or gas but is allways the same stuff in different form ie H2O. However, water does not insist that ice is greater than it, and water claims to create itself why would I cloud be needed?