Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by mblahnikluver
For instance. If you are a new member then how do you know what the top ranking ones do?!

Because you can get to the 'top rank' in about 3 months.

That's what a relative of mine thinks.
He mostly operates on a quiet resentment of no longer getting any action anyway.

Do I feel bad for saying this? Why should I when he told me this himself, personally complained to me about his deprivation outside where his wife could not hear.
He resents having to do things for people like some kind of handyman but that's the role he insists upon playing by making others feel like they can do nothing without his help. His wife told me one day about a lack of water from their pump & how he was out there fixing it & had it tied in with the pump across the street until he could fix it "because he wasn't just going to leave his wife without water"

All the properties in the neighborhood are on independent wells. They cannot be legally tied together by pipes going under the road & there was no hose going across the street. He told me he took the motor out of her car & she doesn't know about it because she wanted him to fix it for her. He is constantly trying to make some kind of fool out of her but I cannot tell her because she is sick, weak, needs to regain her strength.

I wouldn't sleep with him either. There's no telling who the last person he's been with.
Another relative told me he showed them pictures of him having sex with someone on his phone, but that his wife won't submit to him.

WELL WHO WAS THE OTHER PERSON IN THE DAMN PICTURE THEN?

Anyway... he's held a steady job for a very long time but doesn't have a whole lot to show for it.

He told me he was made a grand master by freemasons and got all the way to the top.

It does not matter what those liars tell you to get your loyalty. if your last name is not an important last name, such as Rockefeller, you will never be "at the top" of the freemason chain.

Coarse then again he also thinks he can get some action by dousing himself in pheromones derived from urine so does it really matter what kind of illusion some freemasons hold?

He gave me some really bad advice that could have gotten me seriously injured or killed.

He's got this lump that looks like it could be an implant or something but won't have it looked at.

He told me himself that he has thoughts that he knows he would not normally think & is constantly wondering why he thinks these things.

It's sad really.

Like I said, he's had a steady job & can fix things and take them apart but doesn't have a lot of things of his own to show for it because he tends to obsess on sex and controversy, making people turn against each other so that they will not tell on him. He resents her so much & complains about how she treats him looking for sympathy but wears a mask so that others will think she bosses him around.

Her nerves are simply shot from living with a cardboard personality & I don't blame her one bit for snapping at him.
I wouldn't have given him a tiny FRACTION of this chance to be an upstanding man.

He's been made some kind of low level pawn. It's pointless & serves no good but that's how they like their recruitments.

I write all this because I'm trying to illustrate how it destroys lives to be the type of man to join a secret society that operates on distorting the truth. It is so habitual for him to operate on mistruth that he lies to her about the most petty, most ridiculous things, including much bigger things I fear.

I used to like him because he's good at wearing masks... but he is not truthworthy... & he is actually a danger to himself & especially others playing silly games & not being able to get control of his own mind.

Don't follow this path.

A man's job as a husband is not to continuously hide things from his wife to keep her hushed up & immobile then just expect her to fulfill his needs.

That crap doesn't work just like the global game of deception will not work.

When does it end?

When we stop putting up with it.

Anyway... he brought his problems to ME.

I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt for a long, long time.

So many people around him have told me all sorts of things because he is more transparent than he can possibly imagine. He can't seem to put it all together.

He gives fakeness... he gets it in return.

I'm sorry but that is how it works.

I know he wouldn't want me to publicize who he is, but he should not have laid his shame at my feet.

This is nowhere NEAR the worst I can do!

If he does not stop messing with me, names and all will go public to everyone I know and on the net because I have my own website. I'm just trying to make my way. It should not have been complicated by this mess. Case workers, electricians (codes) the police... many reports to give.

A MAN WHO LIVES BY SECRET PACTS IS NOT MY PROBLEM TO SORT OUT!!!

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
That's what a relative of mine thinks.

You know what always amazes me? Is people love telling these stories as if it means something. So you happen to know someone you don't like who claims to be a mason. What just floors me is that the statements hes making are 100% incorrect and you'd know that if you did 5 minutes on google. Your last name means nothing in masonry. The vast majority of them are great people. He claims to be a Grand Master, but a Grand Master means being elected the head of a state level lodge, and frankly thats a small enough number of people that I would highly doubt anyone telling me that story, especially if they thought it was something to brag about (most GM's I know see it as a type of community service and its a very bureaucratic task..not much to brag about).

But it doesn't matter. Its someone you don't like, and he claims to be a mason, so lets take everything as true and disparage 3+ million people for it.

Originally posted by Afterthought
Are any lodges audited regularly by an oversight committee that has no connections to the lodge they're charged with overseeing?

Why should they be? Do you have any evidence of corruption in freemasonry? Its funny, I don't know of any non-profit organization in the entire world who has an "oversight committee" made up by people who have no connection with the organization, but for some reason you think freemasonry should?

More proof that most freemasons are just low rung lackies.

Those up top don't give 2 craps about old local lodge buildings. The ones up top have their meeting in expensive high rises.

Leaving the low rung lackies in the dark helps to fuel that fear of being made obsolete.

If you fear you are being made obsolete, you will just be more combative toward your new socialist government. It's all just part of the plan so go hug your fire arms and wait for the commies & jihadists to come and continue to keep a nice secret lock down from those in your community who you think can't possibly understand the world.

... because they're woman and according to freemason misogyny, women don't need to know these things... they just need to keep spreading their legs.

Hint-hint.... They're not coming. If they want the dirt under your feet they'll just buy it.

... and you CAN thank the stupid freemasons before you that set up this system that they knew would collapse and drive us all into war.

Here's another hint... We're onto the game.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
More proof that most freemasons are just low rung lackies.

Those up top don't give 2 craps about old local lodge buildings. The ones up top have their meeting in expensive high rises.

Leaving the low rung lackies in the dark helps to fuel that fear of being made obsolete.

If you fear you are being made obsolete, you will just be more combative toward your new socialist government. It's all just part of the plan so go hug your fire arms and wait for the commies & jihadists to come and continue to keep a nice secret lock down from those in your community who you think can't possibly understand the world.

... because they're woman and according to freemason misogyny, women don't need to know these things... they just need to keep spreading their legs.

Hint-hint.... They're not coming. If they want the dirt under your feet they'll just buy it.

... and you CAN thank the stupid freemasons before you that set up this system that they knew would collapse and drive us all into war.

Here's another hint... We're onto the game.

Really? Wheres you proof? We get it, you are blinded by hatred by someone who claims to be a mason. Instead of hyper focusing on that claim, especially when the things they've said indicate they are not in fact a mason, why don't you do some actual research?

Oh don't do that, then you'd find out you've been hating 3 million people and putting them into conspiracy fantasies for no reason. Instead you are making completely insane allegations - if your going to do that, provide the evidence. Give me the names and lodge numbers of these all powerful "masons up top" meeting in expensive high rises.

Its funny that people who aren't mason keep hanging on to this "high rung/low lung" mason delusion. It doesn't exist in reality - its a fantasy of your own making that you made up in order to satisfy your hatred. I get it - you need something to blame for keeping you down, but don't make things up as you go along. Freemasonry doesn't have 1% of the power you are ascribing to it.

Originally posted by thelongjourney

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
That's what a relative of mine thinks.

You know what always amazes me? Is people love telling these stories as if it means something. So you happen to know someone you don't like who claims to be a mason. What just floors me is that the statements hes making are 100% incorrect and you'd know that if you did 5 minutes on google. Your last name means nothing in masonry. The vast majority of them are great people. He claims to be a Grand Master, but a Grand Master means being elected the head of a state level lodge, and frankly thats a small enough number of people that I would highly doubt anyone telling me that story, especially if they thought it was something to brag about (most GM's I know see it as a type of community service and its a very bureaucratic task..not much to brag about).

But it doesn't matter. Its someone you don't like, and he claims to be a mason, so lets take everything as true and disparage 3+ million people for it.

edit on 7-1-2013 by thelongjourney because: (no reason given)

Oh, since you liked my story so much... here's another.

I've got freemason relatives over near the coast as well (I have known MANY freemasons in my life and they have some similar traits) Some of them have passed away but they were all in law enforcement.

This was in the paper while you're bull#ing.

He went into the hospital for a surgery and became extremely combative after the surgery because he wanted to go home. Yes, he is old... but that isn't a very good excuse for what took place next.

He was fighting with his wife because she wouldn't (couldn't) take him home till he got better. Does any of this sound familiar because it does to me.

Anyway, as a gun toting wife of a freemason/ ex law enforcement officer she brought her gun in her purse INTO THE HOSPITAL.... left it by his bed while she took a shower in his rooms bathroom.

while she was taking her shower he proceeded to get the gun out of her purse and shot a hole through the wall of the bathroom apparently trying to kill the woman.

No charges were pressed.

No real investigation took place.

He said he didn't remember any of it and that was good enough for the officers who arrives on site.

Now try being another type of member of society and pulling some BS like that.

You'd be locked up so fast it would make your head spin.

This crap isn't funny. I've had many men try to claim me as some piece of chattel in he south east surrounded by men who think they have the right to do things like this and control anything and everything AND IT IS GOING TO CHANGE.

Mean something?

HELL YES IT MEANS SOMETHING!

and since you are so damn THICK.... it's not the name sake, but the power and money those names hold. I thought you'd be able to figure this out for yourself but it's pretty obvious that you need a lot of stuff pointed out to you... things that should be common sense.

Give me a few more million men who like to keep secret and feel like they control everything and I will slam on them as well.

So you think you're special? one of the good guys? Not guilty of any of these indescretions?

THEN WHY DO YOU NEED A SECRET BROTHERHOOD TO BACK YOU UP AND MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE A COMMUNITY FIGURE?

Seriously?

Do I feel I need to be part of an organization to stand my ground?

NO.... UNLIKE SOME I'M SIMPLY A MEMBER OF THE HUMAN RACE!

Ohhh... but you have to be different, right? You need a title and stupid symbols to give you INDIVIDUALITY.

No... No guy... I do NOT like your kind.

Join the rest of the human freaking race and I MIGHT reconsider!

Originally posted by thelongjourney

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
More proof that most freemasons are just low rung lackies.

Those up top don't give 2 craps about old local lodge buildings. The ones up top have their meeting in expensive high rises.

Leaving the low rung lackies in the dark helps to fuel that fear of being made obsolete.

If you fear you are being made obsolete, you will just be more combative toward your new socialist government. It's all just part of the plan so go hug your fire arms and wait for the commies & jihadists to come and continue to keep a nice secret lock down from those in your community who you think can't possibly understand the world.

... because they're woman and according to freemason misogyny, women don't need to know these things... they just need to keep spreading their legs.

Hint-hint.... They're not coming. If they want the dirt under your feet they'll just buy it.

... and you CAN thank the stupid freemasons before you that set up this system that they knew would collapse and drive us all into war.

Here's another hint... We're onto the game.

Really? Wheres you proof? We get it, you are blinded by hatred by someone who claims to be a mason. Instead of hyper focusing on that claim, especially when the things they've said indicate they are not in fact a mason, why don't you do some actual research?

Oh don't do that, then you'd find out you've been hating 3 million people and putting them into conspiracy fantasies for no reason. Instead you are making completely insane allegations - if your going to do that, provide the evidence. Give me the names and lodge numbers of these all powerful "masons up top" meeting in expensive high rises.

Its funny that people who aren't mason keep hanging on to this "high rung/low lung" mason delusion. It doesn't exist in reality - its a fantasy of your own making that you made up in order to satisfy your hatred. I get it - you need something to blame for keeping you down, but don't make things up as you go along. Freemasonry doesn't have 1% of the power you are ascribing to it.

edit on 8-1-2013 by thelongjourney because: (no reason given)

Guess what... I knew masons in Florida too.

They were bikers and drug addicts and built an underground shelter in their yard but hid it's access from everyone.... most likely a meth lab.

They missioned in prisons and brought in cheap, second hand hotel soap when these things are usually provided.... but it was an excuse to have contact with the inmates.

Here's another hint... some drugs are made through soaponification and can be made to look exactly like a small bar of soap.

where do you think the drugs in prisons come from?

They give them to inmates to help certain ones (usually white ones here in the south) control the hierarchies in the prison system and report back what they have learned with their leverage. Don't tell me what I #ing know.

These people personally pulled a stunt on me with their control freak ways.
They failed though, because I'm not that dumb. I've been locked up by freemasons before with a 25000 dollar bail on a petty drug charge that I was set up for.... all so they could hold me under observation.

High level masons? Try the ones in London city state. You'd never see them in a filthy lodge.
They're untouchable... So they think.

Yawn...sorry, I read your post but I thought you were going to provide evidence for all your claims. Nope, just more stories. Trust me, for every story you have I can tell a hundred about freemasons fighting for democracy, equality, and freedom of religion. Of men who were masons that died for those causes - both in history and even as recently as today. I can tell you even more stories of men who do wonderful things in secret for the betterment of mankind, donating large portions of their income. I know one brother in my lodge who makes $28k a year as a janitor. He gives $14k - half of it - to the local homeless shelter. Because he has a heart for the homeless. He does this completely anonymously - he volunteers there and learns what there needs are. When they need new blankets, dozens of new blankets show up. When they are low on food, an anonymous order comes in. Hes only told me about it so I can help him with some of the logistics. Why does he do this? Because hes a good man, but further because hes a mason who truly believes that a mason's life should be spent making his community better and doing it in secret so that the mason gets no praise for doing so. He does it because hes right, and his deeds shine a light on the darkness of your hatred that is so bright its laughable.

We get it. You hate someone, and because he says hes a mason you amplify that hate towards all masons. The problem is the things hes told you shows hes not a mason. Now please put up evidence for all the grandeur claims you've made about masonry.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
Guess what... I knew masons in Florida too.

They were bikers and drug addicts and built an underground shelter in their yard but hid it's access from everyone.... most likely a meth lab.

They missioned in prisons and brought in cheap, second hand hotel soap when these things are usually provided.... but it was an excuse to have contact with the inmates.

Here's another hint... some drugs are made through soaponification and can be made to look exactly like a small bar of soap.

where do you think the drugs in prisons come from?

They give them to inmates to help certain ones (usually white ones here in the south) control the hierarchies in the prison system and report back what they have learned with their leverage. Don't tell me what I #ing know.

These people personally pulled a stunt on me with their control freak ways.
They failed though, because I'm not that dumb. I've been locked up by freemasons before with a 25000 dollar bail on a petty drug charge that I was set up for.... all so they could hold me under observation.

High level masons? Try the ones in London city state. You'd never see them in a filthy lodge.
They're untouchable... So they think.

I'm sure you did. You are seeking in life for something to blame for your current position other than yourself, and have turned to conspiracies as that security blanket. Its very common. You've decided its those darn masons keeping you down, as conveniently everyone you don't like just happens to be one even when you say they've told you things which proves they aren't masons. But that doesn't matter, because were not talking evidence here, were talking you needing something to hate.

So far you've claimed masons -
1) Are responsible for "socialism"
2) Seek to rape women
3) Are responsible for the drug trade
4) Are hell bent on making your life miserable

The evidence, by the way? Oh...there is none. And Masons in London? Funny you should mention that, BECAUSE LONDON IS WHERE THE UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND IS THAT HOUSES THE MOTHER LODGE OF THE WORLD. You couldn't have picked a city to be more wrong about.

Originally posted by thelongjourney
Yawn...sorry, I read your post but I thought you were going to provide evidence for all your claims. Nope, just more stories. Trust me, for every story you have I can tell a hundred about freemasons fighting for democracy, equality, and freedom of religion. Of men who were masons that died for those causes - both in history and even as recently as today. I can tell you even more stories of men who do wonderful things in secret for the betterment of mankind, donating large portions of their income. I know one brother in my lodge who makes $28k a year as a janitor. He gives $14k - half of it - to the local homeless shelter. Because he has a heart for the homeless. He does this completely anonymously - he volunteers there and learns what there needs are. When they need new blankets, dozens of new blankets show up. When they are low on food, an anonymous order comes in. Hes only told me about it so I can help him with some of the logistics. Why does he do this? Because hes a good man, but further because hes a mason who truly believes that a mason's life should be spent making his community better and doing it in secret so that the mason gets no praise for doing so. He does it because hes right, and his deeds shine a light on the darkness of your hatred that is so bright its laughable.

We get it. You hate someone, and because he says hes a mason you amplify that hate towards all masons. The problem is the things hes told you shows hes not a mason. Now please put up evidence for all the grandeur claims you've made about masonry.

Yeah... a freemason janitor gives away half of his income anonymously.

Masons lie... simple as that.

I have no need to listen to this crap. No one needs to be a mason to give to charity. That has nothing to do with being a mason when YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE ONE TO GIVE.

So why does he need to be one?

To have secret connections.

Say it aint so? Then drop the fairy tale and make donations to charity without the title.

but it doesn't happen that way does it?

Nope... probably just another drug ring. I'm not just assuming this because of people I know. Your story makes no sense what so ever and is completely unbelievable. Nobody who is a janitor does crap like that... and most janitors would be lucky to pull in 2000 a month, much less over that amount.

You're full of it... but then again, you're a mason.

Those people are most likely running drugs for him and bringing him back proceeds.
You should be ashamed of the common sense you lack.

I'll tell you what. I'll stop going for the throat of freemasons just a as soon as they get the hell off my case.

I didn't start this crap. THEY DID.

Them and their little man rumor mills.

Until your organization gets the hell of my back, you might as while learn to adjust to my complaints.

If they mean nothing to you... ignore them.

Jeebus Christ.....Why is it that every time someone connects the "Elite" to esoteric symbols, the whole organization must be behind it as well....If I am a serial killer with a gun, does that make all gun owners a serial killer? No it doesn't...Employ some logic, common sense, or critical thinking skills here people...Possibly all of the above even. Analogies will help you understand everything in the world.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie
I'll tell you what. I'll stop going for the throat of freemasons just a as soon as they get the hell off my case.

I didn't start this crap. THEY DID.

Them and their little man rumor mills.

Until your organization gets the hell of my back, you might as while learn to adjust to my complaints.

If they mean nothing to you... ignore them.

No, they didn't. I believe that you believe masons are somehow after you, really I do. But the facts are that masonry has neither the power nor purpose you ascribe to it, and everything you've said these so-called evil masons are telling you shows they ARE NOT MASONS. If someone is "on your case"...its not masons. You just need them to be because its easier to believe in a grand conspiracy against you. For some people its the black helicopters, for others its covert gang stalkers, for you, its masons. You cant diagnose mental illness over the internet, but if you REALLY BELIEVE all the stuff your saying I recommend you seek professional help. I am not kidding or trying to insult you in any way.

You have offered 0 proof - 0, zip, none, nada, for your heinous allegations of rape and making illicit drugs...among other terrible things you've accused me and all masons of being involved in. All you have are stories...which don't add up.

NotASpie, you sound like someone with deep emotional issues. Go see someone about your daddy-issues and then come back to us.