Can YOU completely turn off Pain with your Mind ?

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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 08:06 PM
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You have 5 senses how many can you focus on completely at once? As an autistic, I have to willingly mute some senses; to be able to focus on the executive ones, called for in a given situation. I learned this in my early 20's meditating, while sitting focusing on breath; the mind moves as soon as your focus drifts. So how many senses can the average person focus completely on at once? None. If you can focus on one; eventually you will enter bliss.

The mind/heart sense gives rise to the plurality; of the other senses. You can practice turning the senses off and on...eventually you can shut the mind/heart sense off, and just abide unmoved...but it takes a lot of practice, detaching oneself from the habit of distinctions. "I feel cold", well can you feel cold; if you focus on the sensation of your shoulders from a shirt, and the sensation of your tongue resting in your mouth, can it also be sensing the cold? No, you shift focus. The mind is where ever you place it, if you place it on discomfort or pain, you will sense discomfort and pain. Most people do not direct their minds at all; unless required, usually it is a random torrent of thought and sensation; jumping around where ever and on what ever it wants...

For people familiar with meditation; particularly, Buddhist Zen practice...this is what is meant by the old flag story as follows.

Two men were arguing about a flag flapping in the wind. "It's the wind that is really moving," stated the first one. "No, it is the flag that is moving," contended the second. A Zen master, who happened to be walking by, overheard the debate and interrupted them. "Neither the flag nor the wind is moving," he said, "It is MIND that moves."

How many people at the monastery that day; do you think did not even notice the flag at all? Out of sense's out of mind...

If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? It doesn't make a sound; yet what sense perceived it to fall? Was it from hearing a tree fall before and recognizing the sound; leading to the conclusion one fell? Was it sight that perceived the tree falling? I was asked by a Zen master once; the tree falling question; I immediately plugged both my ears and said "What?" He immediately keeled over off his mat laughing. Now if this were the 14th century, I would have sat on his mat, but I have no more use in a Zen monastery, than a statue of the Buddha.
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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As far as the mental response to pain, yes you can ignore that. AS far as using a broken limb, no. That doesn't work, no matter how "tough" you are. Muscles need the frame they are attached to, to work. Not to mention, just because you turn off the "feeling" of pain, does not mean you remove the natural physical responses, such as inflammation.

Mind over pain, is entirely possible, but you have to consciously do it. So if you think about the pain, it comes back and if you aren't consciously blocking it out you feel it. I can will away headaches, and ignore some pain but extreme nauseating OMFG pain is something entirely different. The worst I've consciously willed away was broken digits, but as soon as I was not running on adrenaline and competitive spirit it hurt. How ever I got to lick those wounds in private, not on the pitch.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 02:41 AM
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Ive had this photo of someone awake during open heart surgery. I know nothing more except I recall it was about not being sedated and using the mind.

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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 03:26 AM
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As mentioned before, it is possible to ignore pain under Hypnosis. To master it in self hypnosis to this degree is on a very skilled level.

For anyone who wants to try it: be aware to use positive suggestions.

As for the example: i tell you NOT to think about a pink elephant.
what do you see now? right, the pink elephant.

same with pain: Do not think about Pain - and there it is.

Instead, concentrate on breathing, on health, on relaxation, on cooling body parts.
It takes some time/experience/excercices, and its worth it.

And as in all mind related topics, it works better, when you are convinced it works.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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I am sorry to say this, but if that women told you that she could break her leg, fix it up and continue running through the meadows at FIVE years old, then I can´t really take her all too serious.

Unless she is superhuman, has no ability to feel pain (actual medical condition and not at all as cool as you might think) or she underwent advanced mossad interrogation training before that age, she is telling a lie or has a gross misrepresentation of what happened in her memory.

There is just no way.

IF she is telling the truth, then she should tell this practical little mind trick to first aid crews around the world immediately. It could help save a lot of lives.

I mean if a 5 year old can do it, how hard can it be?
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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It seems reasonable that you could sink so "deep" into hypnosis and past the sleep state that pain signals could not be consciously received anymore. Although I would still prefer traditional anesthetics if it were my butt on the table.

Self-hypnosis in an accident situation on the spot is quite a different thing. At least I would imagine that it would be close to impossible to overcome certain pain levels to be even able to get to those stages where you could blend out the pain.

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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:16 AM
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Nope. I rely on herbal remedies, massage, physio therapy and specialist treatments. Recently diagnosed with osteoarthritis, chronic clot and Rheumatoid Arthritis. Have tried everything. The pain is always there. Some days are better than others



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Dr. John E Sarno has an interesting take on this subject, I have a friend that swears by his methods. He's very controversial but claims to have helped thousands with their back pains but many also think he's whacked. I personally believe it's very subjective to each individual. Studies of the placebo effect seem to add validity to his theory.
Here's a link about the man and his theories.
en.wikipedia.org...
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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For me it's actually really interesting why some people are more prune to pain and others not? Any research on that, is it totally physical? Or our brains actually works here, so some can withstand pain easier than others.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:38 PM
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Yes, I can make it go away or make it worse. To make it better all I do is when the pain throbs you concentrate on the feeling when it doesn't hurt. To make it worse concentrate on the pain and what it feels like.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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I got migraines as a child and my doctor told me to go into a dark cool room and focus on making the pain into a beam of light and shoot it out of my forehead. I have done that ever since. Seems to work for me.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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For little things like a dentist visit or getting a cavity filled I can turn off pain. I believe a lot of physical pain is worsened by tension in the muscles. The first thing I do is completely relax & repeat "relax" and "calm" in my mind and after I'm completely calm I start to meditate. I think ignoring the pain is key. I've been able to deal with a lot of things by using my own method, although it's different for anyone. I think the pain will always be there, but ignoring it and relaxing helps tremendously.



posted on Jan, 11 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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Not one of you have mentioned aliens. Aliens are known for doing this to abductees somehow mentaly, using telepathy.





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