Manager of FPSRussia found murdered

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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by ecoparity
The family is hardly an unbiased source which is why we have homicide investigators and autopsy. If he was tied to a chair I doubt there would have been any hesitation labeling it a wrongful death so I'm guessing that report is false.

Other than suicide there's also the possibility of accidental self inflicted gunshot. They did state he had multiple weapons around him when found so I wouldn't rule that out yet either.

I know it's not as sexy as the infowars version but I've learned to verify everything for myself and not rely on any media outlet, especially inforwars for my news.


he had weapons around him, but none were out/in a position of being used. Hence why they dont think suicide is a likely option
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by Juggernog
 

FPSRussia is a Youtube channel, basically FPSRussia shows all kinds of firearms and shoots them off. Mostly high grade military weapons like AR-15s and AK-47s.

Not got for FPS I've been to his Youtube channel and watched his videos many times. Kind of strange someone would target his "manager". The manager must have upset someone, and since they are from Russia could be some kind of a mob hit or where ever/whoever they are getting their weapons from didn't get payment for the last shipment. Either way, not good.

Star and flag.

-SAP-
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They are NOT from Russia. Kyle was born in Gerorgia.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 09:07 AM
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Wow, I don't know what to think about this. Can we be sure that ANY of this information is correct?

I mean I read 3 and a half pages of this thread before I had to stop..., every other poster was posting how they felt bad FPS Russia was dead. I mean WTF? It's in the Thread title..., IT WAS NOT FPSRUSSIA that DIED. IT WAS HIS MANAGER.

Good grief.., if this is how information is gotten and passed along over the internet, it worse than the worst game of "telephone" ever. This is why you can't believe anything you hear.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 09:13 AM
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This is probably going to affect Kyle's booming career big time.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
This is probably going to affect Kyle's booming career big time.


Yes, that is the real tragedy here.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by luciddream
This is probably going to affect Kyle's booming career big time.


Sadly in a good way. Just like the sex video improved Kim Kardashians life.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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hearing about anyone murdered in such a style is horrific. Hopefully we get some answers.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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Over the last, I dunno, 10 years there's been other shootings like this if it was as described- people tied to chairs, shot in the back of the head, execution style - here in Georgia. The drug gangs do that.

I hear stuff...Mexican gangs operating here, m13 is here and local gangs that spring up... local lowlifes get hooked on meth and tie themselves up in the mess for drugs, money, at first maybe even a place to crash. You never know though who these guys are connected to at the top, maybe one can put pressure on someone to provide something and kill them in the name of the gang but it also serves another agenda so the kill gets a pass from on up the chain.

It's all rumors, stuff I hear from locals, as illusive as smoke maybe, because you can tell in talking to people, they KNOW something, but are terrified to say exactly what.. But there's been other cases in Georgia like this and no one was ever convicted, other cases it was gang related.

I mean, just personally, that's where I'd look first...if the guy somehow got tangled up in one of the drug/gun gangs...even a local gang like the Cedartown gang that I *THINK* they thought was taken down.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Just speculation but watch this end up being some anti gun nut. Trying to prove gun crime is bad by killing people with guns. However, it's sad to see anyone killed in general. I don't follow the FPSRussia channel but I'd imagine it'll take quite a toll on the channel.
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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"2 major guys from the gun industry"? DO you have the mind of a child? This guy shot guns and posted videos to youtube, is that what you think a "Big Guy" in the gun industry does... HAAA HAAAA HAAAA. By your ridiculous logic then the next cat I see playing piano must be the president of PETA right?... ATS: define ignorance.......

I think you just showed more ignorance than any other poster I have ever seen on ATS.
I'm sure some other member has corrected your (lack of) understanding on this matter.

Back to the OP, I wonder if anyone will step in to supply Mr, FPS now?
And maybe they should investigate that guy who said they should kill all gun owners, who was that again, a reporter, or columnist?

Yes Donald Kaul , I believe it was. Investigate him for this murder!



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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So, a guy who made his living pimping guns and the gun lifestyle dies by a gun...where's the conspiracy? If a snake handler is bit by a snake, is anyone surprised?



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by haven123
its this guy who got shot youtube channel he was the wepons maneger not the fake russian guy
www.youtube.com...


Good find, that is him.

May he rest in peace.
I'm gathering more info and will post shortly.



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:28 PM
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reply to post by paratus
 


Can't wait, wonder if my prediction will be right


nntllc
60*-48*
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Konduit
reply to post by Infi8nity
 

That is strange. FPSRussia's comment on his video from a week ago "50 CAL SNIPER SLOW-MO!".

"Just do what they say its getting scary..."



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If you go to that vid and actually read the rest of the comments below it, you will see where there is a barrage of ppl saying to follow@theFPSshow on Twitter, some even saying if you dont your dog will die and other stuff. To me that reply, you and other posters on here are talking about, is in direct response to that and not some "mob threats"

Common sense FTW
Shaade



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:36 PM
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Are you sincerely comparing this to a snake handler accident, chair and binds included? At least children didn't die in this one, perhaps we can openly discuss the topic.

I think the same people that did Sandy Hook did this one.
Any other guesses?



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by ufohunter16
I love FPSRussia. He better be careful. Whoever killed his manager will probably get him next if reason is given. Unless of course this was a robbery gone wrong.


Even one of the OPs links does mention possible robbery gone wrong, im leaning away from robbery as being a motive because of this comment made by the sheriff on the WLHR news page



Investigators, Thomas said, determined Ratliff had died of a single gunshot to the head and that his body been there for some time. Thomas said investigators found numerous guns in the area where Ratliff’s body was found.


What kind of robber would break into a house, tie up the person, shoot them and then leave with several thousands of dollars worth of firearms left at the scene?

Shaade



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by aivlas
reply to post by paratus
 


Can't wait, wonder if my prediction will be right


nntllc
60*-48*
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What's your prediction?
second



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by kosmicjack
So, a guy who made his living pimping guns and the gun lifestyle dies by a gun...where's the conspiracy? If a snake handler is bit by a snake, is anyone surprised?

The difference is Guns don't shoot people on their own, and never mind that the "hot topic" all over America right now happens to be gun control.

ATS mods, perhaps you should consider changing the sites slogan to "Define Ignorance"....
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 01:10 PM
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I am pretty concerned that there are people on here suggesting suicide as a possibility. The article clearly states that according to the current information, the dead man was shot in the BACK of the head. Unless the fellow was a fan of Heath Robinson, I very much doubt that he committed suicide. Shooting ones self in the back of the head, ranks right up there with running oneself over with ones own car in terms of its being about as likely.

I really would love to know why it is, that people choose not to read the source articles carefully enough. This is a basic matter of English comprehension, and aside from the dark nature of the source material, this is primary school level stuff. We arent reading Chaucer here for gods sake, its a bloody news article written by someone who only expresses a rudimentary vocabulary, and a totally standard style of composition, in terms of the way they write.

I know that the membership are capable of reading the article correctly, so why is it that they can post such daft suggestions?
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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 01:11 PM
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FPS Industries is the company Keith owned with collaboration possibly from Kyle (fake Russian).
fpsindustries.com...

"Kitty Wandel, a manager and producer at FPS Industires, told Guns.com that Ratliff, besides being a partner in the company, is credited with finding hard-to-find weapons for the show, and, according to his LinkedIn profile, he did social media marketing, content production and internet consulting."
www.guns.com...

Apparently they started producing super-high quality AR-15 lower receivers.
$200 each all CNC machined and Very nice.
youtu.be...

Their office info: (via YouTube comment)
kydivemaster 2 months ago
Our office number is 706-384-2283 Mon-Thu 10A-4P

If there was a large investment via capital infusion from an outside source possibly there was a connection there.

If there was a large quantity of these receivers in warehouse that would amount to a lot of $$$ for theft.

If their designs for the lowers/parts or other firearms circumvented the new proposed laws for the ban there would possibly be a reason for issue.

More to follow on another facet...

Mods please edit/delete if telephone number or website if off limits.
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