Bolivia slams US over 'irrefutable evidence' of meddling

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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 10:14 AM
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I have been aware of this meddling for a while now due to a thread I authored in 2011.

Even Bolivia Won't Do Business With The DEA Anymore

Now it appears that the bad relations have escalated.


Bolivia has “concrete evidence” that the US is plotting to destabilize the Latin American nation, Minister Juan Ramon Quintana said. Proof of US “harassment” of the Bolivian government will be handed over to President Obama, he added.

The Bolivian government is “scrupulously following” US activity in Bolivia, Minister for the Bolivian Presidency Quintana said in a press conference

“There is so much evidence to hand over to the President of the USA to say to him: Stop harassing the Bolivian government, stop politically cornering and ambushing us!” Quintana stressed. He added that investigations into drug-trafficking and human rights abuses would reveal a “permanent battle” waged by the US to impede progress in Bolivia.

“In the offensive against the government there are no visible subjects… What we’re seeing are the political machinations of the US Embassy,” which seeks to damage the image of the Bolivian government, Quintana said

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I would like to see this concrete evidence that Bolivia claims to have, and what they plan to do about it as their options are probably very limited.

This could be very damaging to the current US administration if Bolivia were to come out and release this evidence, depending what it may be.

There is no way this could be related to drug trafficking as the United States would never associate themselves with the illicit drug trade
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 10:28 AM
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It is common knowledge that US sabotages covertly whoever it can.
(even sabotages Canada when it comes to meat and lumber trade)

That's the thing with Israel too. Israel doesn't just sit there like a
neighbor watching you across the fence, it overtly sabotages you as a neighbor.

And poor average American asks,

Why do they hate us ???
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 10:37 AM
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I read this on a new site today also, i am interested in seeing the evidence also, although I dont need to see it to believe the Government are yet again acting in a criminal manner.

I guess we will have to wait and see if they make the evidence public. thy should have done a YT video for the world


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism
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It is common knowledge that US sabotages covertly whoever it can.
(even Canada when it comes to meat and lumber trade)

That's the thing with Israel too. Israel doesn't just sit there like a
neighbor watching you across the fence, it overtly sabotages you as a neighbor.

And poor average American asks,

Why do they hate us ???
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I agree, most people are aware of US sabotage around the world, but to be fair many other countries do it as well but nowhere near as much as the US, they certainly are the ring leaders when it comes to global sabotage.

But yes, it does surprise me when the average American asks...

"Why do they hate us?"

To be fair to the average American though, it's not them that are hated, it's their government and their policies and actions.
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Judging by the sources mentioned in the RT article, it sounds like they may plan on releasing this information but this could be "saber rattling" on Bolivia's behalf in the intentions of telling the US to "lay off".

I will certainly be paying close attention to this, and wonder what the official US response will be to this announcement, or if they even bother acknowledging it.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Bolivian President Uses Former DEA Agent’s Book to Send Message to the World

[QUOTE] the tome Morales displayed for the cameras on March 3 at a military ceremony in La Paz, Bolivia is the Spanish-language version of “The Big White Lie,” a book penned by former DEA undercover agent Mike Levine. The book exposes the CIA's corrupt involvement in the drug war, including its role in the "coc aine coup" in Bolivia in 1980. [END QUOTE]

narcosphere.narconews.com...

iF MANY OF THE ARTICLES POSTED @ NARCOSPHERE OR NARCONEWS ARE TO BE BELIEVED


Given these facts, it was more than a little disconcerting to a U.S. senator who has been investigating Fast and Furious when he discovered that one of the guns found near the scene of the recent Sinaloa gun battle was previously owned by ATF supervisor Gillett — while yet another gun found at the same crime scene, an AK-47, traced back to the arms smuggler Patino. What are the odds of that?



narcosphere.narconews.com...




This revelation is even more troubling when put into the context of the pretense of the war on drugs and the vast sums of money squandered and lives ruined, or ended, due to US government policies in the pursuit of that “war.” Equally troubling is the reaction of this nation’s bureaucratic leadership to this rank-and-file corruption, a reaction that typically involves throwing more money at the problem and seeking to implement knee-jerk policies that don’t address the underlying corruption — and, in fact, are likely only to create new problems.


From the book: "The Big White Lie"
[QUOTE] "In these pages I will lead you through the deep cover odyssey that I lived for six years. You will hear the words I heard, witness what I and others did, and learn the real reasons behind our coc aine and crack epidemic — the ones your elected representatives hid from you in secret sessions behind closed doors and a misuse of the secrecy laws that must have had our founding fathers twisting in their graves.

"I will give you a fly-on-the-wall look at how the CIA perverts the American justice system by protecting drug dealers and murderers from prosecution; at how even federal judges and prosecutors alleged to have violated narcotic laws were protected from investigation; at how a beautiful South American woman called 'the Queen of Cocaine,' by Pablo Escobar, responsible for shipping more coc aine into the United States than any one person I had ever known, was able to seduce the CIA into destroying her competitors, protecting her from prosecution, and paying her a small fortune in taxpayer dollars for her 'services'; at how the only ruling government of Bolivia that ever wanted to help DEA defeat their drug barons was paid for its faith in our sincerity with torture and death at the hands of CIA-sponsored paramilitary terrorists under the command of fugitive Nazi war criminals. And finally, you will realize, as I did, the ultimate betrayal of America; how, without the CIA's protection and support the resultant crack/coc aine epidemic might never have occurred.

"Without further ado, enter the inner sanctum of the biggest, whitest, deadliest lie of them all: the war on drugs."[END QUOTE]

IMO there is nothing about the Drug War and misuse of funds/corruption that surprises me anymore. DEA Gulfstream 2 with 4 tons of coke (the snorting kind) that crashed along with a few other instances of the" war on drugs" has verified my belief our education system can turn out some truly stupid people who work for the government. Back to your original post on Bolivia....Intimidate, Infiltrate, and if needed exterminate. Various ways and means in no particular order is used by certain ABC agencies all over the world and at home for whatever their agenda of the moment is. Just the way it is and in some instances justified. The problem arises when there is very little oversight due to compartmentalization with some manager who knows best or has an agenda that in reality goes against everything we citizens suppose America stands for. .Also "The Big White Lie" does not blame DEA; it lays the blame exclusively on CIA.

www.prweb.com... more info on the Bolivia and some of the stuff that went down.



Evidently the book stirred the pot but as usual many in America were not aware or even cared.
All the assertions of this book as to CIA's role in protecting and aiding and abetting some of the world's biggest coc aine traffickers, in particular those in Bolivia, would later be corroborated by testimony of CIA Inspector General Fredrick Hitz before Congress, public statements made by top DEA officials, and the work of some of our countries best investigative journalists.


I am out of space but there is much info to be found if interested.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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Thank you for the great contribution


I will spend time going through the content you have provided, as it helps strengthen my beliefs in the American involvement on the global drug trade, especially in South and Central America.

To hear it from an insider certainly makes it even more believeable, not that I ever had any doubts in my mind as I have known about this practice for many years now.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:21 AM
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S n F

[color=grey]The [color=grey]apple[color=grey] is huge, stupid, greedy and makes nosy, officious and dangerous intrusions into the smallest corners of life.

Thanks for posting CE



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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by JewAgainstZionism

And poor average American asks,

Why do they hate us ???



The citizens of America....their biggest enemy is their own government.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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Bolivia does have Lithium, but in a short look up of this guy, he seems somewhat unstable himself.

He seems convinced that the US has been out to get him since 2006...

He makes no distinction really. He just does not like anything to do with America. I think he's just paranoid.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:22 PM
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It sounds like you may need to catch up on recent events in that area, I provided a link to the previous thread that explains some previous "issues" between Bolivia and the US, including political blackmail on the United State's behalf, according to Bolivian officals of course so it could all be baseless rhetoric but judging by the information I have come across the years I believe this is more than just "paranoia".


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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rt.com...

Another RT article but this time it is the Ecuadorian president who warns of possible 'CIA attack' before elections




Ecuadorian President Rafael Correa has said the CIA may try to kill him prior to upcoming elections. Citing reports of a plot to “destabilize the region,” Correa said the threats were “credible,” given the history of US involvement in Latin America.


Some of this stuff might be part of a Chavez Venezuela under cover effort to form their own resistance or block against the U.S. But there are plenty of people in central and south america who do not trust the American CIA or DEA...
Look at some of the history of that region and it is no wonder.

In the old days the leaders were assisted to their leadership positions by funds garnered from many sources to include money funneled from an American spook agency; diplomacy by stacking the deck with like minded easier to control politicians....sorry no link for it is not exactly advertised until 50 years later. Nothing new


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:52 PM
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Considering the United States's past dealings with Latin America I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

It was only eleven years ago that Hugo Chavez was overthrown in a coup in Venezuela and the U.S. was implicated in that.

Fortunately it failed and Chavez retained power.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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If you only have one source, from the accusing party, that's sort of the definition of biased.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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Leave it to Russia Today to say it is the US meddling in Bolivia. It seems that Bolivian leader is Communist and it is always Communism which destabilizes countries. Take Korea and VIet Nam for starters. It was always Communism. The Bolivian leader apparently says that NGO's are spies. How funny is that..... considering it is NGO's who are helping push forward Agenda 21 all over the world, including Canada.


What a crock, the guy is probably right about the NGO's but they are probably helping HIM create a Communist State.

This statement from the Bolivian leader says it all!


is best we close the United States embassy in Bolivia because we are anti-imperialist, anti-capitalist and anti-neoliberals,"


defeatcommunism.com...

He is basically anti Freedom. Communism curtails freedoms everywhere it sets up camp.

No wonder Jose Serrano is trying to put that stupid bill through again to limit terms for the US Presidency....so that we too can have a Communist/Socialist Dictator like Bolivia, Argentina, and N Korea.

Good work digging up all this Communist corruption going mostly unnoticed.
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:32 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
Considering the United States's past dealings with Latin America I certainly wouldn't put it past them.

It was only eleven years ago that Hugo Chavez was overthrown in a coup in Venezuela and the U.S. was implicated in that.

Fortunately it failed and Chavez retained power.


Marxism has been invading Central and South America for decades. It is Marxism and Communism which seeks to destabilize countries in order to take root.



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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Marxism has been invading Central and South America for decades. It is Marxism and Communism which seeks to destabilize countries in order to take root.



The United States has been invading the Middle East for decades. It is capitalism which seeks to destabilize countries in order to take root.

Your original sentence was ridiculous. Marxism hasn't been "invading" Central and South America. That's a silly term to use.

Honestly this isn't the 1950's anymore. Get a grip.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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It seems that Bolivian leader is Communist and it is always Communism which destabilizes countries.


Bolivia is socialist not communist and although I do not profess to be an expert I believe there is a difference.

Secondly Bolivia has had democratic elections since 1982 prior to which it suffered a number of military coups.

He is not anti-freedom. If anyone is anti-freedom and curtailing people's freedoms and civil liberties it's Obama and the U.S government. Maybe you should look closer to home before pointing fingers elsewhere.


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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
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Marxism has been invading Central and South America for decades. It is Marxism and Communism which seeks to destabilize countries in order to take root.



The United States has been invading the Middle East for decades. It is capitalism which seeks to destabilize countries in order to take root.

Your original sentence was ridiculous. Marxism hasn't been "invading" Central and South America. That's a silly term to use.

Honestly this isn't the 1950's anymore. Get a grip.


I'm not al all surprised to see you complain when the Marxist root is exposed. It is so funny seeing all the anti-Americans here constantly bashing the US for some kind of meddling subversion, when it always starts with Marxist roots. The problem is the Globalists within our leadership which promotes Marxism then gives the solution to the destabilization.

You simply fail to see the dialectical activity.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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huan RAmon I bet he is as they say in Russia go sniff the roots of snowdrops





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