Biblical prophecy soon to be fulfilled., page 1

The situation in Syria seems to be getting far worse before it will get any better. As rebel troops seem to be getting a slight advantage and are moving towards Damascus, the Syrian military rebuttal seems to be getting more violent and intense.
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Isaiah 17
New International Version (NIV)
A Prophecy Against Damascus 17 A prophecy against Damascus:
1 “See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins.

When it does come to pass, many will call it a coincidence.

reply to post by Mamatus

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your post is irrelevant and added nothing important to my thread.
next time do us a favor and just think it in your head and dont post it.

reply to post by misse2miss

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Ah, misse2. Only one person replied, not two. The op replied to the replier as you might reply to me. But don't bother because I'm tired and will now go to bed.

reply to post by iSHRED

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There are two problems with trying to find fulfilments of these more "political" prophecies in the Old Testament.
The first is that the main point of these prophecies is to give encouragement to the israelites of the prophet's own time. "You are afraid of these Syrians, Egyptians, Babylonians? I'm here to tell you that God is going to deal with them". This being the case, they were fulfilled in the same period of time. Thus the prophecy about the destruction of Damascus was fulfilled when the Assyrians attacked it.

If you try to find a fulfulment in later history, you come up against the problem that "fulfilments" keep happening, because the history of the Middle East has always been turbulent. For example, last year people were getting excited about the "king of Egypt will be overthrown" prophecies. But apart from the fact that this prophecy was fulfilled in Old Testament times (twice over, in fact, by the Assyrians and by the Persians), the prophecy was also fulfilled
when the ptolemies were overthrown by the Romans
when the Romans were overthrown by the Arabs
when the early caliphs were overthown by the Fatimids
when the mamelukes took control
when the mamelukes were overthrown by the Turks
when the British came in and took control
when King Farouk was overthrown by Colonel Nasser
when President Sadat was assassinated
And if the prophecy is being "fulfilled" every couple of centuries, what is so special about any one fulfilment?
The same applies to prophecies about Damascus. Would you like to guess how many times Damascus has been conquered over the last two thousand years? So if Damascus is demolished yet again, the repetition won't have any more value than the previous occasions.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by iSHRED

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There are two problems with trying to find fulfilments of these more "political" prophecies in the Old Testament.
The first is that the main point of these prophecies is to give encouragement to the israelites of the prophet's own time. "You are afraid of these Syrians, Egyptians, Babylonians? I'm here to tell you that God is going to deal with them". This being the case, they were fulfilled in the same period of time. Thus the prophecy about the destruction of Damascus was fulfilled when the Assyrians attacked it.

If you try to find a fulfulment in later history, you come up against the problem that "fulfilments" keep happening, because the history of the Middle East has always been turbulent. For example, last year people were getting excited about the "king of Egypt will be overthrown" prophecies. But apart from the fact that this prophecy was fulfilled in Old Testament times (twice over, in fact, by the Assyrians and by the Persians), the prophecy was also fulfilled
when the ptolemies were overthrown by the Romans
when the Romans were overthrown by the Arabs
when the early caliphs were overthown by the Fatimids
when the mamelukes took control
when the mamelukes were overthrown by the Turks
when the British came in and took control
when King Farouk was overthrown by Colonel Nasser
when President Sadat was assassinated
And if the prophecy is being "fulfilled" every couple of centuries, what is so special about any one fulfilment?
The same applies to prophecies about Damascus. Would you like to guess how many times Damascus has been conquered over the last two thousand years? So if Damascus is demolished yet again, the repetition won't have any more value than the previous occasions.

edit on 7-1-2013 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)

The main problem with your post is that Damascus is still a city.

That prophecy is one of the most black and white prophecies in the Bible.

Might want to re-read that passage before you comment

Wikipedia - Syrian Civil War

Not to put a dampener on this, however Syria has been in and out of a state of "civil war" since 1964, with many coups and revolution. Given the area (generally speaking) is in a state of instability, and given the history of the area I'd suggest its a case of ebb and flow.

reply to post by radpetey

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If "ceasing to be a city" is going to be your definition, I should point out that nothing in the current Syrian crisis is likely to cause Damascus to cease to be a city. If it is levelled down to the foundations and reduced to rubble, it will simply be re-built once the trouble is over.. So it is unlikely to be fulfilled by your own definition of it. In any case you cannot say that it has been fulfilled until you have waited long enough to make sure that the city isn't going to be rebuilt.

Originally posted by DISRAELI
reply to post by radpetey

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If "ceasing to be a city" is going to be your definition, I should point out that nothing in the current Syrian crisis is likely to cause Damascus to cease to be a city. If it is levelled down to the foundations and reduced to rubble, it will simply be re-built once the trouble is over.. So it is unlikely to be fulfilled by your own definition of it. In any case you cannot say that it has been fulfilled until you have waited long enough to make sure that the city isn't going to be rebuilt.

edit on 7-1-2013 by DISRAELI because: (no reason given)

I agree with that......I think Assad may do something abominable to another country on his way out.

Sorry....I did not make the connection to your response to that particular post

reply to post by iSHRED

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You are loosely connecting two completely different situations. Even in the most generous light this prediction is loose at best.

Plus Damascus has already been fought over many many times over many hundreds of years. Your prediction has already come to pass many times.

reply to post by Shoujikina

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It has been inhabited for the longest duration of time..

reply to post by misse2miss

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HI

I myself do not really believe in Nostradamus, as many of his predictions were translated in different ways such as the 9/11 incident.

He really was not a prophecy at all, he really was a scientist however he had some visions and certain gifts that led him to predict the future.

However the only book with the true predictions is the bible.

My opinion
thank you

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