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See, what most people don’t realize is that self defense shootings happen all the time. The problem is that these instances aren’t shown on the national news, or even local news for that matter. Most of the time you will be lucky to read a small postage-sized report in a local newspaper.
So, for the time being, every week I will compile a report and post it here of every self defense shooting I can find in the US.
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
I am deeply saddened by the tragic death of this 10 year old girl. Only an idiot fires a gun into the air, even the police are trained to fire into the ground for a warning shot.
The subject is Self Defense With Firearms, I think we should stay on subject, if you want to start a thread with accidental shootings as the subject, be my guest.
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
I am deeply saddened by the tragic death of this 10 year old girl. Only an idiot fires a gun into the air, even the police are trained to fire into the ground for a warning shot.
The subject is Self Defense With Firearms, I think we should stay on subject, if you want to start a thread with accidental shootings as the subject, be my guest.
Originally posted by shadwgirl
Here is another story for you.
www.foxnews.com...
Very brave woman who is protecting her children. I believe in the right to bare arms and appreciate the fact that there are people who are willing to use them to protect their families. The down side is that we have to protect our families. People who are criminals, in my opinion, have no respect for human life and get what they deserve when the honest people fight back.
On a lighter note, Old American, I love, love, love your avatar. She was my favorite character in the comic.
Just roll over and let the criminals take your money, property, identity, humanity, and life. Gotcha. Perfect reasoning and makes sense when you're an anti-rights nut like you.
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
I am deeply saddened by the tragic death of this 10 year old girl. Only an idiot fires a gun into the air, even the police are trained to fire into the ground for a warning shot.
The subject is Self Defense With Firearms, I think we should stay on subject, if you want to start a thread with accidental shootings as the subject, be my guest.
The thread is trying to claim having guns readily available is good, this is not the case.
(Your Opinion.)
It was a list of people who used guns in "self defence" more people were victims of gun crime in this period than were saved via gun ownership.
That was my point
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
reply to post by IkNOwSTuff
I am deeply saddened by the tragic death of this 10 year old girl. Only an idiot fires a gun into the air, even the police are trained to fire into the ground for a warning shot.
The subject is Self Defense With Firearms, I think we should stay on subject, if you want to start a thread with accidental shootings as the subject, be my guest.
The thread is trying to claim having guns readily available is good, this is not the case.
It was a list of people who used guns in "self defence" more people were victims of gun crime in this period than were saved via gun ownership.
That was my point
But let’s not go with the high estimate. Let’s go with some smaller ones instead. Let’s use the far more conservative 800,000 number which is arrived at in multiple studies. That still dwarfs the number of illegal shootings. Heck, let’s even run with the number once put out by the people who want to ban guns, the Brady Center, which was still around 108,000, which still is an awesome ratio of good vs. bad.
Originally posted by The Old American
Originally posted by shadwgirl
Here is another story for you.
www.foxnews.com...
Very brave woman who is protecting her children. I believe in the right to bare arms and appreciate the fact that there are people who are willing to use them to protect their families. The down side is that we have to protect our families. People who are criminals, in my opinion, have no respect for human life and get what they deserve when the honest people fight back.
On a lighter note, Old American, I love, love, love your avatar. She was my favorite character in the comic.
When people stop wanting to take what other people have by force or coercion, guns will become obsolete. I look forward to that day, and will celebrate it. Until then, they are the best defense of your life, liberty, and property.
She was mine, too. She seemed, ironically, the most human of all of them.
/TOA
Originally posted by RedmoonMWC
When all governments, worldwide, affirm that all men are created equal, that they are endowed with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
When all governments, worldwide, lay down their weapons and no longer use force and manipulation to ensure their rule over the people they are supposed to protect and serve;
When all governments, worldwide, lay down their weapons and no longer feel it is necessary to try to impose their rule upon another government, or the people in another territory;
When religious leaders no longer call for the forceful conversion of non-believers.
When the criminal elements within the population of the world no longer threaten peaceful people and/or the resources thereof;
Then, and only then, will I relinquish my ability to defend myself from them.
I will however, retain my ability to defend myself and my property from wild predatory animals and my ability to hunt for food.
I do not fear the criminal element in society, because I have the ability to defend myself from them.
I do not fear wild animals, also because I have the ability to defend myself from them.
It is the governments of this world that are my greatest concern, because they have no respect for the common people and no incentive to listen to them. I say this in the full realization that many of the governments of this world, even the United Nations, seem to feel that the people of this world are only here to serve them, not the other way around.
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
your outdated gun laws have allowed any nut job
Simple fact is you all feel the need for guns now due to the fact that your outdated gun laws have allowed any nut job, psycho or criminal to also have guns.
As long as you guys dont do anything about it and change your laws people are going to feel trhe need for guns and stories like SH and the new years tragedy will keep happening.
But as long as you have a gun and its no one you love dying I guess its just fine
Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
reply to post by RedmoonMWC
LOL sorry Im not used to people in gun threads being civil towards me
i did make a thread on it......... hang on did you know that and were being sarcastic?