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Originally posted by SpearMint
It doesn't matter how far down the list it is, it's a lot of people. Stop trying to downplay people being murdered.
It's fine if the US has a very high gun murder rate as long as it's not the #1 killer? You're comparing intentional homicides with accidents and things we cannot control. I think your attitude towards the issue is disgusting.edit on 6-1-2013 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by snarky412
The point is, no death is good, no matter what causes it.
Originally posted by SpearMint
Originally posted by DarknStormy
Originally posted by SpearMint
It doesn't matter how far down the list it is, it's a lot of people. Stop trying to downplay people being murdered
Maybe it is a lot of people but it doesn't change the point, Guns are not the biggest killers in the USA..
Oh, that's fine then, those 12000 or so lives lost were ok. Thanks for clearing that up.
By the way, no one was claiming guns were the biggest killers in the USA, they are however the biggest intentional killers.
Originally posted by WP4YT
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
Rofl, didn't Canada have like less than 50 gun homicides last year? "HEY LOOK, 12,000 AMERICANS DIED TO GUNS, BUT 600,000 DIED FROM SMOKING!!! GUNS AREN'T THE PROBLEM!"
And yet, out of every 100 Canadians, 30 of them own guns. So you are actually helping the point that guns aren't the problem. People are the problem. Rather than being afraid of guns, we should be looking at the reason why people use guns to kill, and solve those problems. Banning guns is just a band-aid to the problem.
Just the simple fact that there are guns, isn't the problem. Let's instead cure the mental illness that causes people to murder. Whether it is by gun, knife, or any other means. Let's look and fix the real reasons gun deaths in America are greater than other countries.
Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
You really can't downplay the fact that thousands of Americans die to guns yearly.
But you know what, everyone dies, some sooner than others, so what does it even matter if a few thousand people get killed by guns in America each year? Apparently we value guns more than human life, and so be it, let us deal with the repercussions and the dead children while the rest of the world laughs.
No one is downplaying deaths by guns. All deaths are tragic. What I am downplaying is the death by guns hysteria and fear mongering. Do you value automobiles more than human lives? Because automobiles kill far more than guns!
edit on 6-1-2013 by WP4YT because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SpearMint
It doesn't matter how far down the list it is, it's a lot of people. Stop trying to downplay people being murdered.
It's fine if the US has a very high gun murder rate as long as it's not the #1 killer? You're comparing intentional homicides with accidents and things we cannot control. I think your attitude towards the issue is disgusting.
Originally posted by Symbiot
reply to post by Donkey_Dean
Now I'm not saying that the american public is leaning towards gun control as a whole, but there are many who tend to demand action on gun control when gun violence is predominant in the media. While the two of us might disagree on which way the american public is leaning in regards to gun control I think we can agree that gun control legislation is no solution to the problem at hand.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.