The Four Big Business Gangs That Run The US

Personally, I know no one will agree with me, but we are on the road to recovery from all this. I say that because presently, more people than ever are becoming more and more aware of all this each day. That may not seem like much, but awareness is where it starts, and it only grows from there.

On the one hand, planning, organization and mobilizing ourselves as citizens, as a force is important. But on the other hand, on another level, the simple awareness itself will effect change. People do not necessarily have to know HOW things will change or what to do, change will occur. BUT IT WILL OCCUR GRADUALLY sometimes, sometimes in bursts, but remember, no one got into this mess overnight.

I think one of the worst things any of us can do is promote a sense of powerlessness where this is concerned. Being cynical and hopeless is not realistic, it's simply weak and lazy.

People need to do what they can do and immediately. Hate GMOs? Don't eat them. What's the sense of complaining about the evil of GMOs, Wal-Mart, big pharma, etc. if you're still actively partaking and supporting all these things even though you don't have to? Make the effort. The only reason organic foods, to take one example, are making any kind of dent, is because people chose another option.

I would also say that the entire conspiracy sounding mode so many people like to speak in, such as the elite power mongers have all the power, and they're planning this and planning that may be true to a point. But I think more realistically, it simply comes down to what was said in the article, "they take care of their own." No one even has to do this consciously - it will just always happen.

In the end, no powerful institution or corporatocricy can do anything without US.

Originally posted by chrisb9

Originally posted by poet1b
There is one big business that runs everything, the bankers.

The bankers control the oil industry, the insurance industry, the military industrial complex, big ag, big pharma, the media, everything.

The plan to destroy the US government, shrink it down until it can be drowned in the bath water, has only resulted in a bank take over of the US government, which has not shrunk at all, but in fact gotten far bigger than ever.

People don't care about the facts, far too many are brainwashed by right wing talk radio.

edit on 6-1-2013 by poet1b because: Add missing not

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A very interesting and timely thread S & F ToTheTenth !

I also agree with poet1b's statement above. It's the big banks, they own and run everything. I saved this lengthy article below that goes into great detail on this subject. I would also add " A Time for everything under the sun " as observed and written by King Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes.

Banking Cartel is the Cause of Humanity's Woes
June 26, 2002

"The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." ---Thomas Jefferson

In November 1949, Eustace Mullins, 25, was a researcher in Washington DC when friends invited him to visit the famous American poet Ezra Pound, who was confined at St. Elizabeth's Mental Hospital and listed as a "political prisoner."

A leading figure in Modern English literature, Pound was the editor and critic who introduced the world to James Joyce, W.B. Yeats and T.S. Eliot. During the Second World War, he was charged with treason for broadcasts on Rome Radio that questioned the motives behind America's involvement.

Pound commissioned Mullins to examine the influence of the banking establishment on U.S. policy. Mullins spent every morning for two years in the Library of Congress and met with Pound every afternoon. The resulting manuscript, "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" proved too hot for any American publisher to handle. Nineteen rejected it. One said, "you'll never get this published in New York." When it finally appeared in Germany in 1955, the U.S. Military Government confiscated all 10,000 copies and burned them.

Thanks to the American Patriot Friends Network, this book is freely available on line. (I recommend you save it on your desktop, as I did.) Why is it so (excuse the pun) inflammatory?

Essentially it paints a picture of the world, and the role of the United States, which is radically different from the one we are given in school or in the media.

"Notwithstanding the war of independence against England," writes Mullins, "we remained an economic and financial colony of Great Britain." Between 1865 and 1913, he says London bankers led by the Rothschilds used agents such as J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller to gain control of American industry and organize it into cartels.

Where did these bankers get the money? For over 200 years, European bankers have been able to draw on the credit of their host countries to print it!

In the Seventeenth Century, the moneylenders and the aristocracy made a pact. If the king would make paper currency a liability of the state, the moneylenders would print as much as he liked! Thus the Banks of England, France and the Reichsbank came into being but they were all private corporations and remain so today.

According to this nefarious pact, the moneylenders got to charge interest on assets they created out of thin air. The aristocracy all took shares in the central banks plus they got to finance a burgeoning government and to wage costly wars.

This piece of chicanery is at the heart what plagues humanity.

The bankers have a vested interest in the state (i.e. the people) incurring as much debt as possible. They are behind the Marxist, socialist and liberal movements which call for big government and social spending. They are behind the catastrophic wars of the last century. The Warburgs financed the Bolshevik Revolution. The Bank of England financed the rise of Hitler. Prescott Bush (W's grandfather) was head of Brown Brothers Harriman, which financed the construction of the Nazi war machine.

Naturally if you can create money out of thin air, your first instinct is to buy tangible assets with it. There is a powerful impulse to use debt to control nations and take over their real assets. This is the essence of the so-called Third World Debt crisis. Dedicated to owning all wealth and enslaving humanity, an irresistible vampire has been unleashed upon the world

Continued in next post:

Two important books to read:

1. The Monster of Jekyl Island

2. The Arms of Krupp

Until near the end of WWII, American banks and financiers were financing both sides.

The great mistake of modern civilization is to encroach upon others' property as though it were one's own and to thereby create an unnecessary disturbance of the laws of nature. These laws are very strong. No living entity can violate them. Only one who is Krsna conscious can easily overcome the stringency of the laws of nature and thus become happy and peaceful in the world.

to complete and simplify:

1] wall street/banking
2] oil/energy
3] military/industrial
4] health care/insurance/pharma
5] agro/food/water/genetics [genetics added here as its mainly applied here economically]
6] land/real estate [this element is as controlled and corporatized as any other sector, controlling the BULK of working class incomes]
7] media/news/information

all of these elements are multinational AND INTERCONNECTED. the only element left out and localized because it is non-corporatized [but corporate controlled] is fed/state employees/agencies/systems and police/security/other relevant government bureaucracies.

this summary is more complete than the 4 systems introduced in the book. this system has usurped and become what can sadistically be labelled as "OUR CULTURE". If you are not a cog in this system, you will feel largely an outsider. if you are a cog, you know the pain. As a reslut of this cultural system, we see the disintegration of function, meaning, care, character, fulfillment, potential and sanity individually and en-masse. We have media/sports and newtown instead.

when all systems are completely owned outside the public sphere, and culture has lost its meaning, philosophy, ethic and purpose [yes, darwinists, people DO organize and form societies for mutual support rather than gather to be dominated], when ecologies are failing and species are being mutated for corporate profit, when crowds scream for plastic products and act out video games in the real world with no care for their fellow man, when only a few psychopaths control, own, classify and decide everything from positions outside the realm of wholer community to such an extent there are no options for alternatives or salvation....cultural systems historically fail. ecolgies fail. economies fall. civilizations collapse.

with our people divided in mutual, cultureless, left and right hate and despising, and the looting globalist robber barons in complete control of every system, with culture so disinterated from within that nothings make meaningful sense but selfishness, control and hateful narcissism, i fear the republic is lost.

Huge star and flag - one of the biggest were sinking in debt and deficits.

Want to see how powerful the Military Industrial Complex is? Even when the Pentagon - the PENTAGON - wanted to trim it's own budget, senators REJECTED their smaller budget and instead INSISTED they SPEND MORE.

Pentagon to House Republicans: We don't want more money

The Defense Department immediately rejected two military spending plans put forth in the Republican-controlled House that recommend boosting the Pentagon's 2013 budget as much as $4 billion above its spending request.

Members of the House Armed Services Committee earlier in the day rejected Pentagon proposals to retire aircraft and ships and added funding for projects such as building a missile interceptor site on the East Coast.

Specifically, the committee's version of the 2013 defense authorization bill overturned an Air Force proposal to retire all of its Alenia C-27J cargo planes and Northrop Grumman Block 30 Global Hawk unmanned reconnaissance aircraft. The panel added $138 million to restart C-27J contracts that the Air Force has not renewed.

The committee restored three of the four cruisers that the Navy wants to retire early in 2013, prevented the Army from retiring its C-23 Sherpa cargo planes, and funded A-10 attack jets and F-16 fighters that the Air Force wants to retire.

The Army, Air Force and Navy want to retire these programs for a reason. But apparently these senators know better than the military what the military needs - or should we say, Boeing, Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, et al, are getting their money's worth out of these lapdogs.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Huge star and flag - one of the biggest were sinking in debt and deficits.

Want to see how powerful the Military Industrial Complex is? Even when the Pentagon - the PENTAGON - wanted to trim it's own budget, senators REJECTED their smaller budget and instead INSISTED they SPEND MORE.

Pentagon to House Republicans: We don't want more money

The Defense Department immediately rejected two military spending plans put forth in the Republican-controlled House that recommend boosting the Pentagon's 2013 budget as much as $4 billion above its spending request.

Members of the House Armed Services Committee earlier in the day rejected Pentagon proposals to retire aircraft and ships and added funding for projects such as building a missile interceptor site on the East Coast.

Specifically, the committee's version of the 2013 defense authorization bill overturned an Air Force proposal to retire all of its Alenia C-27J cargo planes and Northrop Grumman Block 30 Global Hawk unmanned reconnaissance aircraft. The panel added $138 million to restart C-27J contracts that the Air Force has not renewed.

The committee restored three of the four cruisers that the Navy wants to retire early in 2013, prevented the Army from retiring its C-23 Sherpa cargo planes, and funded A-10 attack jets and F-16 fighters that the Air Force wants to retire.

The Army, Air Force and Navy want to retire these programs for a reason. But apparently these senators know better than the military what the military needs - or should we say, Boeing, Grumman, McDonnell Douglas, et al, are getting their money's worth out of these lapdogs.

Like most all the politicians, they use those increased budgets to buy votes and garnish contributions from the beneficiaries. Cronyism is killing us.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Recognised the name. He appears in this documentary, which is related to the subject matter of the op.

Park Avenue - Money, Power and the American Dream

Through archive and interviews with academics, political scientists, psychologists, former lobbyists and even a former doorman at 740 Park, Gibney's film is a polemical look at the socio-economic political landscape of contemporary USA.

Just watched whole movie - really interesting! Didn't know Koch was behind Teachers' Unions downfall. That's ugly and sad.

740 Park Place residents must be very sick inside.

When will these people learn that balance is healthy and too much can kill you inside as much as too little.


Do no harm… it's such a simple concept, you'd think they'd get it. sigh.

reply to post by RedmoonMWC


There is a thread on ATS that has links that map out the complexity of corporate connections. It is very complicated. I think of you search ATS foe corporate web you can find it.

In the past I would connect free market ideology to communism, and get trolled immediately. That this didn't happen here is a good sign. More people are starting to see how corporations are a bigger threat than government. ICBs are the PTB in this new era.

originally posted by: Murgatroid
I see books such as the one Sachs wrote as simply nothing more than propaganda designed to confuse people and hide the agenda behind the REAL people who are in control.

Some major red flags I see here:

1) The authors name is "Sachs" who some refer to as a globalist shill.

2) He appears to be a mainstream "academics" professor.

3) The source is from the MSM (Sydney Morning Herald)

For the record, not everyone is a shill, although some may be brainwashed themselves. I am in Sach's four year old international development grad program at Columbia. And I literally have a final for his development economics class tomorrow (ugh). So, long story short, I've been sitting ten feet from the guy and talking to him all semester. Based on his speech on an everyday basis, and the intuition I get from him, I truly believe that he sincerely cares about the world, people, social justice, etc. That doesn't make everything he says right.

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
For the record, not everyone is a shill, although some may be brainwashed themselves. I am in Sach's four year old international development grad program at Columbia. And I literally have a final for his development economics class tomorrow (ugh). So, long story short, I've been sitting ten feet from the guy and talking to him all semester. Based on his speech on an everyday basis, and the intuition I get from him, I truly believe that he sincerely cares about the world, people, social justice, etc. That doesn't make everything he says right.

Good info...

First hand sources always rank high as far credibility goes.

Your comment about those who are brainwashed is a very key point and I agree 100%.

So many times I suspect that those we label as shills is no different from us with the exception that they are just deceived.

Thanks for the wonderful insight...

a reply to: sirbadazz

when all systems are completely owned outside the public sphere, and culture has lost its meaning, philosophy, ethic and purpose [yes, darwinists, people DO organize and form societies for mutual support rather than gather to be dominated], when ecologies are failing and species are being mutated for corporate profit, when crowds scream for plastic products and act out video games in the real world with no care for their fellow man, when only a few psychopaths control, own, classify and decide everything from positions outside the realm of wholer community to such an extent there are no options for alternatives or salvation....cultural systems historically fail. ecolgies fail. economies fall. civilizations collapse.

with our people divided in mutual, cultureless, left and right hate and despising, and the looting globalist robber barons in complete control of every system, with culture so disinterated from within that nothings make meaningful sense but selfishness, control and hateful narcissism, i fear the republic is lost.

Well expressed.

But I have to re-emphasize what another poster has already: "Our people" = humanity at large. Or at least, Western civilization for starters. These corporations pay no allegiance to any nation. They wipe their metaphorical bottoms on all flags and smile with derision upon all who they see as foolish enough to salute one.

The way I see it, Americans such as the posters here who have seen clearly the layout of the maze would stand a much better chance of dismantling it by opening doors to their cousins from other countries who share the same roots of Western culture and civilization. Americans would find helping hands all round as the noose tightens around all of our necks.

a reply to: DENBY

(during the 1960s-70s) The People who dared to question the status quo were labeled Hippies/Freaks/Commies & Disillusional Drug Addicted Flower Children.

Hence the 'War on Drugs'.

As is usual TPTB took the focus off of the problem & blamed the whacky 'Societal Fringe' for the Nation's woes.

Sadly most People will not wake up until they fall out of bed and hit the floor.
By then the damage will be complete.

This is such an important fact and observation and I am surprised that so few people on this forum recognize this fact and expand this ball of yarn to its full length.

The generation of youth of the 60s and early 70s who regognized the dangers we are all up against today and rebelled against "The Establishment" were not such a rag-tag bunch of dopey unwashed retarded layabouts at all. Their efforts actually brought about the end of what could have been a very profitable war.

Where in all of recordable history have one generation of youth felt such a unified sense of purpose? A generation that searched past literature, art and philosophy which supported a peaceful vision of freedom for mankind? When was there ever a generation that defied their nation's warmonger governments? Watch the British film 'The Four Feathers' and see that women were once encouraged to hand men a white feather as a sign of their cowardice for refusing to participate in the wars that TPTB orchestrated.

When the 1st World War came about, young men in droves in Australia scrambled over each other to escape what they saw as a boring life in the peaceful environment of country-side Australia to be mown down like rabbits before they had even barely set foot on the Turkish beaches.

No, the youth of the 60s and &0s listened to and demanded intelligent lyrics in the music they loved and identified with - A listen to Steppenwolf's song Monster or Jefferson Airplane's Lather or Country Joe and The Fish's Fixin' to Die Rag are good examples. The passing around of Hermann Hess's books or the delight of reading the book Jonathon Livingston Seagull is another. John Lennon's song Imagine too of course. Then there was the study of self-sufficient lifestyle and affordable build-able structures such as Buckminster Fuller's domes structures.

The one weak link in their movement and mindset? Marijuana!

Hence the war on drugs.

Hey man, thanks for the congenial post. Yeah, I hear you. First hand for most of us is lacking. That first hand knowledge just depends on the subject and field, with each of us contributing to the common pile.

It's hard, because many of us suspect that not all is quite honest at the elite level, whether that be economic, political, military, or what have you. It is very easy to suspect all of being "in the pocket" of some nefarious master. And probably, quite a few are. But not all are by any means across the world. This may be the hardest part of making sense of world affairs, why seemingly "normal" or "good" people seem to fall into the traps of hype-nationalism, war, self-justification, us versus them, you name it.

I went to this ostensibly elite school to learn how these people think, act, make policy, and so on. And, it's funny, half of them are as asleep as anyone: the barrista at Starbucks, my mother, the postman, yup.

However, I would like to offer a counterpoint to all of ATS. I have read all about the UN and elite trying to start a centralized New World Order that is all about reducing freedoms, etc. Having worked with many of these people, the vast majority actually are dedicated to helping others, saving the environment for future generations, helping the poor. you get the picture. I was at the UN this spring in an internship in NY. Nobody I met fit this machiavellian view that many conspiracy theorists put forth.

Now, this doesn't preclude the possibility of those kinds of people existing. But, as a person who has searched low and high, including the time I spend here, I haven't yet seen it, either in policy or in intuition being around these high level people. This is food for thought for people on here.

originally posted by: Murgatroid

originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
For the record, not everyone is a shill, although some may be brainwashed themselves. I am in Sach's four year old international development grad program at Columbia. And I literally have a final for his development economics class tomorrow (ugh). So, long story short, I've been sitting ten feet from the guy and talking to him all semester. Based on his speech on an everyday basis, and the intuition I get from him, I truly believe that he sincerely cares about the world, people, social justice, etc. That doesn't make everything he says right.

Good info...

First hand sources always rank high as far credibility goes.

Your comment about those who are brainwashed is a very key point and I agree 100%.

So many times I suspect that those we label as shills is no different from us with the exception that they are just deceived.

Thanks for the wonderful insight...