The Four Big Business Gangs That Run The US

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posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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And don't forget their henchmen, the credit bureaus like Experian, TransUnion, and Equifax. Then the ones that have us by our proverbial balls.




posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by poet1b
There is one big business that runs everything, the bankers.

The bankers control the oil industry, the insurance industry, the military industrial complex, big ag, big pharma, the media, everything.

The plan to destroy the US government, shrink it down until it can be drowned in the bath water, has only resulted in a bank take over of the US government, which has not shrunk at all, but in fact gotten far bigger than ever.

People don't care about the facts, far too many are brainwashed by right wing talk radio.

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A very interesting and timely thread S & F ToTheTenth !

I also agree with poet1b's statement above. It's the big banks, they own and run everything. I saved this lengthy article below that goes into great detail on this subject. I would also add " A Time for everything under the sun " as observed and written by King Solomon in the book of Ecclesiastes.

Banking Cartel is the Cause of Humanity's Woes
June 26, 2002

"The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" by Eustace Mullins

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." ---Thomas Jefferson

In November 1949, Eustace Mullins, 25, was a researcher in Washington DC when friends invited him to visit the famous American poet Ezra Pound, who was confined at St. Elizabeth's Mental Hospital and listed as a "political prisoner."

A leading figure in Modern English literature, Pound was the editor and critic who introduced the world to James Joyce, W.B. Yeats and T.S. Eliot. During the Second World War, he was charged with treason for broadcasts on Rome Radio that questioned the motives behind America's involvement.

Pound commissioned Mullins to examine the influence of the banking establishment on U.S. policy. Mullins spent every morning for two years in the Library of Congress and met with Pound every afternoon. The resulting manuscript, "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve" proved too hot for any American publisher to handle. Nineteen rejected it. One said, "you'll never get this published in New York." When it finally appeared in Germany in 1955, the U.S. Military Government confiscated all 10,000 copies and burned them.

Thanks to the American Patriot Friends Network, this book is freely available on line. (I recommend you save it on your desktop, as I did.) Why is it so (excuse the pun) inflammatory?

Essentially it paints a picture of the world, and the role of the United States, which is radically different from the one we are given in school or in the media.

"Notwithstanding the war of independence against England," writes Mullins, "we remained an economic and financial colony of Great Britain." Between 1865 and 1913, he says London bankers led by the Rothschilds used agents such as J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller to gain control of American industry and organize it into cartels.

Where did these bankers get the money? For over 200 years, European bankers have been able to draw on the credit of their host countries to print it!

In the Seventeenth Century, the moneylenders and the aristocracy made a pact. If the king would make paper currency a liability of the state, the moneylenders would print as much as he liked! Thus the Banks of England, France and the Reichsbank came into being but they were all private corporations and remain so today.

According to this nefarious pact, the moneylenders got to charge interest on assets they created out of thin air. The aristocracy all took shares in the central banks plus they got to finance a burgeoning government and to wage costly wars.

This piece of chicanery is at the heart what plagues humanity.

The bankers have a vested interest in the state (i.e. the people) incurring as much debt as possible. They are behind the Marxist, socialist and liberal movements which call for big government and social spending. They are behind the catastrophic wars of the last century. The Warburgs financed the Bolshevik Revolution. The Bank of England financed the rise of Hitler. Prescott Bush (W's grandfather) was head of Brown Brothers Harriman, which financed the construction of the Nazi war machine.

Naturally if you can create money out of thin air, your first instinct is to buy tangible assets with it. There is a powerful impulse to use debt to control nations and take over their real assets. This is the essence of the so-called Third World Debt crisis. Dedicated to owning all wealth and enslaving humanity, an irresistible vampire has been unleashed upon the world

Continued in next post:



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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Continued from above:


Much of Mullins book is devoted to the subterfuge by which the United States was drawn into its lethal embrace. In 1913, the Owen-Glass Bill gave mostly foreign-controlled banks (posing as "the Federal Reserve") the right to create currency based on the credit of the United States government and to charge it interest for doing it!

To accomplish this, the bankers had to rig the election of 1913 in order to get Woodrow Wilson elected. Then their stooges in Congress passed the legislation on December 22 after their opponents had gone home for Christmas.

"This act establishes the most gigantic trust [cartel] on earth," Congressman Charles Lindbergh said at the time. "When the President signs this bill; the invisible government by the Monetary Power will be legalized. The people may not know it immediately but the day of reckoning is only a few years removed."

Mullins explains that the legislation passed just in time for the American people to finance World War One. After maintaining standing armies for 50 years, European powers no longer could afford the luxury of another war. But the U.S. was relatively debt free and made the whole thing possible.

What would WWI have been without Germany? Apparently Germany was not self-sufficient in food and would have had to sit out this war. In the nick of time, the bankers organized something called "The Belgium Relief Committee" which channeled billions of dollars worth of U.S. meat and potatoes not to Belgium but to Germany. When Edith Cavell, an American working in a Belgium hospital pointed this out, British intelligence had the Germans arrest and execute her.

Mullins makes a convincing case that every U.S. President since Wilson has been a lackey of the bankers. J.F. Kennedy was assassinated because he started to print his own U.S. government-backed currency. This is also the transgression that led to the murders of Presidents Abraham Lincoln and James Garfield.

Last year alone, the American people paid $360 billion in interest to the bankers. To maintain this massive fraud, the bankers enforce an iron grip on the political and cultural organs of the nation. According to Mullins, "The New York Times" is owned by the Kuhn Loeb while "The Washington Post" is owned by Lazard Freres. In Europe the Rothschilds own Reuters as well as the French and German news services.

I presume US publishers, TV networks and movie producers are similarly beholden. Rockefellers, Carnegies and the Fords endow the nations' libraries and universities. Journalists and professors dutifully parrot fantasies about democracy and freedom. Mind control laboratories run by the CIA and the British army (TheTavistock Institute) dream up ways to manipulate and undermine the population. The psychological sterilization of the human female ("feminism") is an example.

The "War on Terror" is part of the banking cabal's plan to consolidate its grip on humanity in a friendly (or not so friendly) fascist "New World Order." They want to secure their political, economic and social grip on the obstreperous Muslim world, as well as build up a security apparatus in case the docile populations of the West become restive.

Well, at least the cosmic battle between Good and Evil is out in the open at last!

savethemales.ca...


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posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 05:09 PM
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The ICBs get by with it in spite of government. They don't need the governments permission to extort entire countries. If all the banks fail, the top execs still walk away with all the money anyway.

Our politicians don't have the power to do anything about it.

Not the way our current system is set up.

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posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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You just need to fill in the rest of the history.

After WW I the bankers pretty much had their way. With loose lending policies, the people dug themselves into debt buying stuff on credit. The problem is that the ICBs plans backfired on them, because the people got so deep into debt, they couldn't afford to pay back the bankers, and the whole system collapsed. The people in the first world countries then voted in politicians who regulated the banks to end their fraudulent business practices.

Strong unions formed in Germany, and Germanies economy began to recover. The ICBs then brought Hitler to power, and his first act was to wipe out the union leadership. They then started WW II, to get the military industrial complex going.

WW II still backfired on them. After the war, the WW II generation was smart enough to support politicians who kept the controls on the ICBs in place. They supported strong union membership, and the wages of US workers rose, and created the largest middleclass in modern history, and the golden years of the US economy.

In the seventies the ICBs came up with a knew scheme. They created the welfare ghettos, where crimes rates were ramped up to horrendous levels through the drug trade, brought in by the CIA, which was and is still controlled by the same people who brought us Hitler. Military intelligence had succeeded in making drug use attractive to young people by creating the hippie movement. In the seventies they launched their final plan with the energy crisis and stagflation.

All of this allowed them to get their man Reagan elected touting the repackage communism/fascism free market ideology, which called for the deregulation of the ICBs, and large tax cuts for the super rich.

What has since followed is a repeat of the twenties,
Except this time, they have been a little more clever, and managed to keep the con going for a longer time.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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So in effect, you are saying it's The Bank of England and The Federal Reserve that control almost every government in the world through the IMF and The World Bank?

Or are their others?
And who other than the boards of directors control these institutions?

I still lean towards the Bilderberg Group as being behind it, but I've been wrong before and they do seem to have too high of a profile.
www.nndb.com...
www.globalresearch.ca...
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posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 07:56 PM
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i've only yet read the 1st page, however i will say that this is an awesome thread--for pros and cons and a very thought provoking discussion; even a chance to gain significant education in any of so many areas of the system. thanks, op.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 08:13 PM
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and their synthesis, of course--maybe even the proverbial theory of everything, theorie du tout correspondant.



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 08:35 PM
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nice post. well, the media are definitely in full brainwashing mode; all pointing to mindless entertainment and sports, as well as polarized politics as sport. it's does seem a bit late in the game these days (after 9dotdot) to hope that we could wake up and resist without being annihilated. oh, well... hope springs eternal--as long as there's anyone left to spring it! lol



posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 09:10 PM
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
When will Americans demand that their greedy politicians listen to Academics like this one? It's clear to anybody who pays attention that educated people, the truly educated, are screaming at the top of their lungs that this is not sustainable, and that the average person is being screwed.


Dear 10th,
Another nice post from you, S&F. I must admit though that this doesn't come as much of a shock, nor should it to anyone who is truly switched "on".

I have one question, to you and all Americans who come to these forums since the following is a rather hot potato topic with you all:
When will you decide enough is enough and stand up against your oppressive and tyrannical government, using your 2nd amendment rights you so cherish in the exact way they were meant to be used, rather than write and complain about the "current state" your country is in?

I'm not being facetious whatsoever, it is an honest question. There is obviously nothing wrong with writing about the state of affairs and trying to educate people and I do admire that but I am also curious as to whether you realise the futility of those actions if they are not backed up with real physical action also.

I am also not enticing anyone to riot - just for the record.

Cheers,
T



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by Panic2k11
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I think most people has already internalized these realizations to some degree, what is incredible is that they can't mobilize to do something about it.


The Corporatocracy doesn't have to lift a finger to stop us. We are stopped by fear and greed. It's a huge and powerful enemy. Many people who figure out whats going on, want to be assimilated back into the machine and just forget about what they saw. Many others fight to defend the Corporatocracy, because they want a piece of that action.

The only thing we can do is stop participating. Drop out. We, as a group, may eventually stop the fueling of the machine. However, the immediate effect will be to make you a more free individual.
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by Panic2k11
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I think most people has already internalized these realizations to some degree, what is incredible is that they can't mobilize to do something about it.

There is one missing the agro-industrial (from animal proteins to corn and soy) and the pharma and genetic but I guess they all get combined in a way or another into the 4 mentioned.

I disagree however that it started with globalization, it started during WW2 (before the end) but Wall street already controlled the government before that probably in stranglehold since the FED came into existence. Wall street at the time was probably not a US centered power that started to be so after the end of WW2 as the US took control of the world, dismantling the previous empires and colonial powers.

In any case globalization was a concept fostered by the US, promoted as an equalizer to advance lesser developed populations but ending in a blatant exploit of workforces (even in the US as the OP states), and the pressure by the US to acquire China as a market has collapsed Europe's social system. In the end only the multinational corporations have benefited, and China's government (that works like one in any case China Inc.).

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I think it started waaaay before WWII - before losing the gold standard, before creating the FED -

It's imperialism in donkey and elephant's clothing. Take from the poor and give to the rich (wall street). Dumb down the masses (media). Drug them (pharma) and poison them (oil) till the public is convinced it's dependent. Tax them to defend and control them (military) and everyone is happy.

For thousands of years these have been used to control the masses. Since the printing press, radio, opium dens, money lenders, potions and elixirs, the railways and steamships and homes needing coal mines till oil came along…

It's not new - we are not more bombarded with opinions of the creepiness or have more time to talk about it now than the revolutionaries did in France in the 1700s.

It's history repeating itself. The good news is, The only constant is Change. Not everybody stays on top when the shake ups happen. Look at Lehman Bros and Maddoff etc.

TPTB are scared too. Watch CNBC and listen to how frantic all their yelling voices sound. These are not calm old men counting their pennies. These are teetering scared people trying to figure out what rope to grab.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by Values_Truth
The real issue is the lack of organization of concerned citizens. Unorganized citizens cannot compete with the titans of industry that control our politics and economy. They have unlimited capital to influence our elected officials and governmental bureaucracy. Why are citizens so ineffective at organizing like the corporations? I believe it comes down to a distortion of the importance of short term and long term benefits. People take action to increase the wellbeing of their existence. Most people only see importance of the short term benefits, and do not have the foresight to see change 20-30 years down the road. Why is this? I think there has been a kind of mass brainwashing that encourages short term gratifications instead of long term accomplishment and permanent positive growth. Also, because of the economy, many people do not have the energy or sustenance to fight any other battle than that of getting shelter, and food on the table for their families.

It’s easier for corporations to work in harmony because they all have intentions of profiting. It is a more complex fight for the people. Not only do we have to profit financially, but we have to fight for our rights to live freely. That is why we have to try to educate the uneducated. And by that, I mean the ‘asleep’, the people who we need to wake up to this grim reality so that we may have a better chance of influencing our nation in a way that benefits us all.


oh I don't know…

Life is short.

Everything in moderation, including moderation of course but more people living in the now may scare TPTB the most.

Banks want you to "own" your house 30 years from now by paying them double in interest. Security / Military complex wants you to be afraid of what could happen in your future. Oil wants you to be afraid of a future without cars. Pharma wants you to think you need drugs to live longer. Media convinces you to want to look or live like stars in the future… lots of out of reach stuff there…

Follow the money - the most in the now real time game with society is wall street. TPTB play that game to win.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
Great thread.

This is why I always laugh at people like Rob Reiner. He takes on the tobbacco lobby and strikes a victory and millions of people applaud. As if something groundbreaking has just taken place. If Reiner really wanted to strike a blow to TPTB and make an actual difference, he would try to take on big oil or Pharma or the Military Ind Complex. It is those things, and those things alone, which shape our government and the world in which we live.


 
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I watched It's A Wonderful Life over xmas… Capra made a fine movie there - it's an allegory about this thread.



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
I agree except #1 is now the Military-Security-Industrial Complex and #4 includes Big Pharma, of course.




Naw.... there is no #1...

the four hands of the Shadow Government are locked in a death grip with each other...

much like the graphic on the OP linked article portrays
((Although. i personnally would have used a graphic of the 4 horsemen-of-the-apocalypse instead))


When i read that concise article, on the Quayle Daily list of worthwhile interest articles... i was wondering just whom would post and make the 'Shadow Government' connection...

as far as the CORPORATOCRACY angle .... i recall a report by a social - civic oriented person that linked fewer than 1,400 of the fatcats that intertwine with all facets of modern life...which form the web of control over the global systems of government/commerce/geo-political drives that ensnare 98% of the worlds populations (global-industrial economies)

the article is a 5 STAR one... it reduces the elites to a comprehensible set of groups... at least in the Western World...

in the mid-east and in other eastern Asian Islamic states... the power of that ideology & Law-Leadership is just a bit more different than the westernized article sets up


** for a generation, a hero of mine Ralph Nader. fought against the Corporatocracy he saw as damaging, & ran for President in 4 elecyion cycles to harness these same 4 groups that run the contemporary USA...
instead the sheeple put in the likes of Bush, Øbama...go back to sleep people
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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Lets just say that the US is run by the corporate Zionism which includes all the above plus some more...Arts, Entertainments and the media industry also play a very important role in controlling and directing the society..



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 12:50 PM
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We are in agreement but talking about two different timings and I am not as certain that we could have avoided the first revolutions...

Society to a degree had to evolve as it did, mostly because we are simply humans (see the post above from gentledissident to me explaining why things are not made better). I'm with you in the indecision if the misery and quality of life we have general today is indeed worst than what we had when we lived like hunter gatherers (like most American Indian nations or Eskimos). I'm speaking in the sense of all humanity, I get that some people are more comfortable today (probably not as happy, internally and as individuals) but if we look all across the world we note that a majority lives in worst conditions that our ancestors, yes they may have a TV, they may even ride a train but the quality of life in the satisfaction of wants is made worst.

The timing I attempted to define was when we indeed lost any hope of getting it right, that the PTB got a strangle hold on the rest of us. When all territories started to be incorporated into nations and all humans had no choice but to belong into the "society".
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posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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For anyone who doubts the reach of these types of groups or individuals, I highly recommend the History Channel series "The Men Who Built America". This a very well-produced dramatic documentary that even my 6-year-old son enjoyed as much as I did.

The series lays out (indisputably) how certain individuals have come to a monolithic degree of power through finance and industry, and how they have had direct effects on the masses of recent civilization.

Enjoy!

-Max



posted on Jan, 7 2013 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by torqpoc

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
When will Americans demand that their greedy politicians listen to Academics like this one? It's clear to anybody who pays attention that educated people, the truly educated, are screaming at the top of their lungs that this is not sustainable, and that the average person is being screwed.


Dear 10th,
Another nice post from you, S&F. I must admit though that this doesn't come as much of a shock, nor should it to anyone who is truly switched "on".

I have one question, to you and all Americans who come to these forums since the following is a rather hot potato topic with you all:
When will you decide enough is enough and stand up against your oppressive and tyrannical government, using your 2nd amendment rights you so cherish in the exact way they were meant to be used, rather than write and complain about the "current state" your country is in?

I'm not being facetious whatsoever, it is an honest question. There is obviously nothing wrong with writing about the state of affairs and trying to educate people and I do admire that but I am also curious as to whether you realise the futility of those actions if they are not backed up with real physical action also.

I am also not enticing anyone to riot - just for the record.

Cheers,
T


All out Civil War (lol an oxymoron if I've ever heard one) is and should be the LAST resort.
But, stay tuned, it's comming. The more the Government pushes, the more people will push back.
Many, myself included, think our government and the U.N. want an excuse to declare martial law.





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