They really ARE trying to have Obama be our permanent Dictator!

reply to post by ownbestenemy

Agree....yes both the 9th and 10th Amendments. They are critical.

That is the point here.....start a petition with the White House? As if they can effect change because you started a petition? Stop looking to the executive for the changes needed....

Also, Congress and the president have term limits but the People fail to execute them by continually putting them in office; even in light of an anemic approval rating. So the problem isn't "term-limits" its a population that cannot for the life of them, be involved in their self-governance.

I agree that the WH is not going to be real enthusiastic with that idea. But, in the back of my head I keep thinking that the petition IS a way to generate publicity and awareness. This all seems like a problem of getting enough people to care to understand what is going on and how it will ultimately affect them.
ATS is such a wonderful thing for helping people understand, but even with all the very smart and insightful people here, and the intense ongoing debates, it is such a tiny fraction of the "voting public." I wish we could figure out a way to wake "the rest" up. _javascript:icon('') Ahem.

Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by ownbestenemy

 

Agree....yes both the 9th and 10th Amendments. They are critical.

ATS never picked up on it that much, but a Supreme Court opinion involving the 9th and 10th is Bond v. United States. It is a paramount case that didn't receive much attention.

reply to post by ownbestenemy

and on this note ...

The fact that the "Bill of Rights" is amended into the Constitution, they very well can be repealed! Not likely, but they can.

why bother working that hard when POTUS can/will create a National Crisis and suspend them ... if only ppl realized the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth ... boy'o'boy could we be dangerous.

reply to post by Honor93


Agreed Honor. It comes down to a People who frankly, just don't want self-governance anymore in my opinion. What else could it be chalked up to?

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Does it really matter? The Republicans are exactly the same in every regard.



Reagan=Bush=Clinton=Bush=Obama=Were screwed because we keep picking one if these two.

Here's a pic of ol Jose with his good friend Hugo Chavez, dictator who tried to eliminate term limits in Venezuela for the common good(and the Socialist Party).

uppitywoman08.wordpress.com...

Originally posted by stirling
I am sorry gentlemn, but Mr Obama is not available for the Us presidency.....
Hes being groomed fopr bigger things...maybe UN presidency...

Oh I think that's only in case they can't ram the repeal of term limits through and can't create a big enough crisis to declare Martial Law or whatever....but I do see him as being in charge of the New World Order govt.

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by Honor93

 

Agreed Honor. It comes down to a People who frankly, just don't want self-governance anymore in my opinion. What else could it be chalked up to?

Self Governance takes work, is my opinion on it. Work isn't a popular thing at any level anymore. Simple things from mowing one's own lawn to picking up some litter along the sidewalk or street of one's own neighborhood. These things are beyond the common scope of many people today for whatever reason or rationale. It doesn't matter the why, I suppose. The end result is the same. When little things can't be attended to, the concept of self governance must seem overwhelming to even consider.

How many people do you know in the real world for instance, who are uncomfortable or even take action to avoid listening to news or discussion of current events because it's depressing or they can't handle/don't want to hear about it? I know too many in mine. It's a fact that the system America was founded to follow and grow within cannot stand any length of time if the people become apathetic to the point is true indifference.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Here we go again.

This US Rep, a democrat- of course- is trying once again to bestow kingdom on the usurper.

www.popvox.com...

H.J.Res. 15: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the number of terms an individual may serve as President.

Remove the term limits, hack the voting machines (completed), and you too can have perpetual rule, even in America. Amerika. The end.

Wonder why the "Starting a New Thread" rules as offered here...
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=15676480#pid15676480
do not apply in this case? Aren't we supposed to make every thread count?

reply to post by newcovenant


Did they just hire you as a new Mod? Well Congrats to you

end sarcasm

reply to post by HairlessApe

The 2-term Presidency only became official in the early 1940's because a republican used cheap tactics to secure a third term.

Where did you get that idea ? What Republican? Term limits came after FDR and his famous Socialist programs and New Deal.
Those Democrat revisionist historians must have been having a heyday in your school.

Term limits, or rotation in office, date back to the American Revolution, and prior to that to the democracies and republics of antiquity. The council of 500 in ancient Athens rotated its entire membership annually, as did the ephorate in ancient Sparta. The ancient Roman Republic featured a system of elected magistrates—tribunes of the plebs, aediles, quaestors, praetors, and consuls—who served a single term of one year, with reelection to the same magistracy forbidden for ten years. (See Cursus honorum)[1] According to historian Garrett Fagan, office holding in the Roman Republic was based on "limited tenure of office" which ensured that "authority circulated frequently," helping to prevent corruption.[

In contrast to the Articles of Confederation, the federal constitution convention at Philadelphia omitted mandatory term limits from the second national frame of government, i.e. the U.S. Constitution of 1787 to the present. Nonetheless, largely because of grassroots support for the principle of rotation, rapid turnover in Congress prevailed. Also, George Washington set the informal precedent for a two-term limit for the Presidency—a tradition that prevailed until Franklin Roosevelt's presidency, after which the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was ratified in 1951 formally establishing in law the two-term limit.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hope that helps clear things up for ya.

Originally posted by Spacespider
As a outsider to US I always given the impression that Obama was fixing up USA after Bush destroyed it ?
Cant see who would do better then Obama as president..

Oh there is one that I would like to see US president, that guy Jessy Ventura, he fight for the truth and say what he thinks.. but that would just be to good to be true

Well I'm glad you weren't able to vote.

Obama is not fixing anything but the game implemented before him. He is continuing the status quo.

reply to post by ownbestenemy

that question isn't fair to the OP so i'm just gonna go with excess toxicity ??
you pick the source or multiple sources as the case may be.

the biggest thing that comes to my mind are these simple words ... we are what we eat
that should explain it and kinda sorta on topic too

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Don't know how this would make Obama a dictator by allowing him to run for president again, but I do agree with you that revoking the 22nd Amendment is not a good idea. More over, I doubt that this Constitutional amendment could get passed before Obama's next term is out; not that it has much of a chance to pass in the first place.

Frankly, I think malign Grays and Reptilians from Zeta Reticuli are more likely to invade our planet than for this amendment to pass, so don't spend too much time concerning yourself with this matter, Chief.

Originally posted by PvtHudson

Originally posted by Spacespider
As a outsider to US I always given the impression that Obama was fixing up USA after Bush destroyed it ?

That partisan left wing tripe and nowhere near the reality. I hope you realize this.

Yes Bush left the country in such good shape we lost nearly 1,000,000 jobs the month Obama
was sworn in

Such tripe

This US Rep, a democrat- of course- is trying once again to bestow kingdom on the usurper.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


This rep should be thrown out of office. It's bad enough we don't have term limits on congressional and senate representatives!

Not saying Obama is bad or anything but I just dont see why the term limit would be removed. I mean just look at it this way. The colonists wanted to get away from the monarchy. They did it but if the limits were removed sure we would till have the presidency but at some point we will have our own version of a monarchy as well. By this I mean a president of more that 10 years. Im sure the public doesnt want that, Do they?

reply to post by TrueAmerican


thanks for the heads up.

Just opposed it.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


Even if this Bill were to make it past a committee and then make it to the floor for a vote and passed by both the House and Senate it would not affect the current admisittartion as it would then have to be ratified by 2/3 of the States Legislators and have to be within 7 years so very doubtful we shall ever see it make the light of day...and if he really wanted to run again he certainly can...just not in a row more than two terms...he can take 4 years off and run again and once again become the POTUS