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Spectacular incident in Iraq?

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posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 03:42 PM
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Well here we are in the lead up to the US Presidential election. So what better way to sway voters opinions and views, than some form of 'spectacular terrorist incident' in Iraq?

It would be fair to assume that any such attack would have to make worldwide headline news. This could be because:

1/ Of the chosen target/individual.

2/ The death toll.

3/ The type of attack.

4/ The shear scale of the incident.

5/ The audacity of the attack.

We have recently seen the International Zone (old Green Zone) suffer two attacks by suicide bombers. So maybe this area would be an obvious target for the insurgents.

BUT we are looking at something, which if planned and executed correctly could change the leadership of the USA and have a direct impact on the time frame for the US Mil to withdraw from the country. It may also dictate a change in operational tactics in the short term.

Yes.....Intelligence out here is suggesting likely/probable targets, but for obvious reasons I WILL NOT POST THEM, so please do not ask me to. This is a thread where I want to hear the thoughts from others who may have a different outlook and take on the situation out here.

You never know........your thoughts on this subject could possibly cover a scenario that the Int Analysts have not considered, so you may even save lives.




posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 03:47 PM
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You're there Billy, do you really think they have a greater agenda like influence the American elections? My take has always been that the resistance is loosely co-ordinated (amongst the varying groups) and dedicated only to ousting the occupiers.

Are these guys politically savvy enough to think in terms of the American electorate?



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 03:56 PM
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Do you mean like filling the news with 380K lb's of wxplosives missing in Iraq?

I understand this is not new news, just being retold now-hmm-what timing.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 03:58 PM
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deevee......these guys learn real fast! One of the first rules of warfare is "Never underestimate your enemy"

If the various insurgents groups out here are really being backed by those suspected, then yes they maybe savy enough to attempt something 'big' to influence the voters in the US.

Coffins with flags drapped over them make people think really hard about the decissions taken by politicians!



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 04:18 PM
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You may even want to combine a multiple of your proposed scenarios. Perhaps an unconvientional attack with a high casualty rate on a supposed safe zone. For instance a chemical attack on the International Zone. I have always been curious as to where the chem weapons went. My thoughts have mostly been to Syria, but perhaps some still remain. And they may even still be loaded into the 122's to deliver them.

If those weapons were to be used in the International Zone, within Baghdad, there is a likelyhood of a huge casualty rate. The use of chem weapons would outrage the world, and it could effect the political atmosphere everywhere.

But I'm sure those MI guys have looked at that scenario.


dh

posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 04:37 PM
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Some of us have the impression that what we see is what we're given
Like the revelation of the long time stolen explosives comes out now
Like all sorts of little incidents will happen over the next few days to undermine the admittedly noxious chimp, and support the, as someone said here, tree-like Kerry and his shapeshifting quartermain
This all happened long ago when the WMD failed to be planted in Iraq



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 04:43 PM
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Could this news from today back up Billythecat's thoughts?

www.atsnn.com...

Iraqi insurgents warn of unprecedented attacks

Insurgents issued a warning on Tuesday, saying any U.S.-led offensive in Falluja would lead to attacks on Iraqi and coalition troops with "weapons and military tactics they have not experienced before."

On an APTN video monitored by CNN, a masked gunman read a statement promising a counterpunch against U.S., Iraqi and multinational targets throughout Iraq "in the ways and forms of our choosing."

U.S. warplanes regularly have been pounding sites connected to the Abu Musab al-Zarqawi terrorist network for many weeks, and the Iraqi interim government has warned of the possibility of an all-out offensive to oust militants from Falluja, where insurgents are firmly entrenched.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 05:24 PM
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I'd say it's more then likely there will be a massive attack somewhere in Iraq before the US elections. And the news of these explosive going missing all points to it. A co-ordinated car/truck bombing attack would deffinatly get the worlds press. More so if it was aimed at the international section.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 05:25 PM
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phreak.......an interesting post mate. Yes I must agree that when you consider the amount of chemical munitions that were stockpiled and left over from the Iran - Iraq war, I'm sure that there are a couple left lying around.



posted on Oct, 26 2004 @ 07:34 PM
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Originally posted by BillyTheCat
We have recently seen the International Zone (old Green Zone) suffer two attacks by suicide bombers. So maybe this area would be an obvious target for the insurgents.


Dont forget the mortar attack on the US military base.



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 03:47 AM
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LOL............and which motar attack would that be brother????.

Sorry......didn't mean to laugh its just that they are a very common occurence over here. One sort of blends into another



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by BillyTheCat

Coffins with flags drapped over them make people think really hard about the decissions taken by politicians!


That's why media is banned at Dover Air Force Base.



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 04:47 AM
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Uncertain if it has anything to do with the commit Bush has made that he has Bad News that will come just before or after Nov 3rd. Unless this a play on words, that will depend on the other commit made by a ATS menber saying Kerry has loss, if this is in fact the bad news (Kerry Lost) Its a poor choice of words considering what going on in Iraq.

However more to the point of a answer to your question..... Sinse it has been mention the loss of over 380 tons of explosives has been realized, (again)and to, the warning that has been made if we don't stop the attacks on fulliuga(sp)
I could see a real concern for all Green Zones and other soft targets that will be the focus of there next attacks.... In short they will hit those targets we are not looking for them to attack, while were focused on where we think the threat is. It appears to me they have allot of inside info on our efforts over there, where as we don't have any on there movements until it comes with a explosion.
Regardless, until our troops are given good Intel, they will continue to be held back on any progress(if that word could be used here) until that time comes, more deaths are to be expected.



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 12:22 PM
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Interesting thread.

I think that if chemical weapons were used anywhere in Iraq, the Democrat and world cries of a false war would be turned right on it's head. Bush would most likely get a landslide victory with many people feeling rather sheepish about doubting American and world intelligence services. Hopefully they insurgents don't have the capability to "slime" coalition forces.

Secondly, I'd just like to state that I hope that sometime, sooner than later, that the world's population begins to understand how difficult it is to fight MOUT-style wars. The United States is learning, and quickly I believe in this rather new-style--for us anyways--of combat operations. There is a large difference between fighting in a battlespace that is open and sparsely populated with civilians and one that is closed and exteremely populated. Our forces along with our allies have done an extremely marvelous job at fighting this new fight.



posted on Oct, 27 2004 @ 05:00 PM
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Well Bill, I don't think your getting the reply's you were looking for... 13 so far, 509 views... This will not give much insight on your questions, concerns, and the pressures your dealing with. I'd like to express here, if we were to consider the strong points of what we can do as a force that is not welcome, is to back off! Lets take the time to let those realize were there to give a different way of life, if this is not accepted, by the majority, it will not make any more difference to remain there. Given the chance to protect those that want this freedom, Protect a area for them to find a peace, it is not where they are now. Escort them out of this war zone and deal with the those that wish to remain, in otherwords, know where your threat is. Right now, its all guess work!




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