reply to post by ganjoa
You know, the thing is...In researching and creating the thread
I had linked in my sig
until recently, I spent a few weeks all over and in the federal budget. Now, we haven't have a formal one passed since Bush's carry-over in '09, true.
2013 Fiscal Year proposed budget from
the White House
showed what WAS actually spent as totals from 2011 going back. They keep track after the fact even if they don't pass a road map
to get there in advance anymore.
The numbers add up... Across the line, they all total out and add up just as their supposed to. Off-the-books is real enough, no question. It's
COMPLETELY off the books though. I mean, it's not some clever diversion of tax money because all that IS traceable and accountable to the last dollar,
for what that's worth and in a number of directions. Think Golden Triangle funding for "off-the-books" in Vietnam and funding for Central American
operations in the 80's...for how I'd suspect this is working and the T&C prevents that from being elaborated on.
I know the revenue to spending add up. I ran it several ways over those weeks....looking for that hole that I could just list as "Classified" or
"Other" on a graphics board. No such animal, as such...and I wouldn't be surprised if someone doubted that. I've been called an outright liar by more
than one. (It's why I source and link things to DEATH... The truth is real hard to believe) Math is math though and as much as I hate math on one
hand, I love it on the other because it's the most honorable language in existence. It can't lie. People can try, but math doesn't know how to
maintain the lie in the end.
Official war spending for both Afghanistan AND Iraq combined came to roughly
1.1 Trillion Dollars by 2011
. That makes
about 100 Billion per year in spending, on average, since the wars began in November of 2001. The outlay to direct military spending within DOD (as
opposed to benefits, Nuclear related, infrastructure, foreign aid etc etc) is running around $700 Billion
and steadily coming down.
Roughly 100 Billion per year for wars. with 700+ billion for overall operational military spending. The wars aren't even running a 1/4 of the
Pentagon's spending. As much as they cost, that should show how far
into crazy town
the numbers have really gone here.....and for what
it's worth, that's pretty constant from 2001 to 2013. Change in Presidents didn't change much there...despite the President having the ability over
that area of Defense as the Commander in Chief by Statutory power.
To get right down to the brass tacks though? The numbers don't even begin to jive in suggesting military spending...even 100% of the ENTIRE Pentagon
budget taken together...is what created our deficits. In fact the highest Military spending for the the wars while under George Bush saw annual
budget decifits less than 50% of the LOWEST we've seen since this Admin took office and 2013 is on track with Qe-3 and Operation twist to BREAK 2
TRILLION DOLLARS in a ONE YEAR deficit number. (Those two programs alone..since just Sept. add 1 Trillion per year to deficit! ! !)
The ongoing U.S. Budget Deficit
is what has doomed us and it's been doubled down on...again
and again in the past 4+ years and going back to the last SURPLUS year in 2001 from Clinton
, to be really honest.
Bush made it, Obama improved it to a science and near work of modern art.
Happy New Year
edit on 5-1-2013 by Wrabbit2000 because: Added DOD total pending / alternate budget data link