Let's Rebuild the Coast "Once Again", and next season we will act surprised too., page


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reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 08:51 PM by seeker1963
reply to post by samlf3rd



Beautiful to live there, for sure, but you are right.

I feel bad for those whom have lost their homes, no doubt about it. But the evidence should becoming more and more clear to the American people. We cannot depend on our government anymore to help us!!!!

They don't care, and if they did, they would be bringing the fires of hell down upon the insurance companys who are screwing these people over......


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 08:57 PM by dc4lifeskater
reply to post by seeker1963



The government isnt put in place to give us money to replace out homes when the insurance company doesn't come through. The fact that everything things the gov is there to save them is the problem, they should step in to make sure people who have insurance get proper payments sure especially if the insurance company isn't doing its job you paid them to do, and of course they will, take them to court and win you will get your payout, it sucks but thats how it works. Don't like it? well change it then.


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 08:57 PM by UberL33t
reply to post by samlf3rd



Yes, I have had a bad day


I am quite sure it could be much worse....right?

On topic, I don't believe there are very many places on this Earth that are free of natural disasters of some form. Unfortunately, a lot of places are inhabited and will be re-inhabited if devastated by a natural disaster and some just happen to be areas that are more prone to certain natural disasters. There are a multitude of reasons depending on the area in question.

In this case, it is easier to rebuild the coast as opposed to uprooting the Eastern Seaboard and moving it to...where...that wouldn't possibly be prone to some form of a natural disaster?

I don't think anyone or anywhere is totally natural disaster proof. We rely on the odds, as we as a species have and most likely will for sometime to come.


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 09:00 PM by seeker1963
reply to post by dc4lifeskater



The government isnt put in place to give us money to replace out homes when the insurance company doesn't come through. The fact that everything things the gov is there to save them is the problem, they should step in to make sure people who have insurance get proper payments sure especially if the insurance company isn't doing its job you paid them to do, and of course they will, take them to court and win you will get your payout, it sucks but thats how it works. Don't like it? well change it then.


Isn't that basically what I said?


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 09:21 PM by Char-Lee
Originally posted by dc4lifeskater
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post by seeker1963



The government isnt put in place to give us money to replace out homes when the insurance company doesn't come through. The fact that everything things the gov is there to save them is the problem, they should step in to make sure people who have insurance get proper payments sure especially if the insurance company isn't doing its job you paid them to do, and of course they will, take them to court and win you will get your payout, it sucks but thats how it works. Don't like it? well change it then.


No the Government, which does not EARN money is there to take the money from hard working people and send it to other countries by the billions and leave the people that EARNED it to their own devices...less their $$ to work with!

You may be surprised to learn that most countries outside of Western Europe, Canada and Australia get foreign aid from the U.S. This year the requested amount for Russia was $68.7 million. For China, it’s $12.9 million. A whopping $647.7 million has been allocated for Nigeria. Even $20 million is set aside for communist Cuba. Again, these figures are the requested


Take a look at some of the numbers!
www.forbes.com...


reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 10:21 PM by Maluhia
reply to post by pheonix358



When we rebuild, we rebuild the same crap houses made basically of sticks and chalk! Of course the next display of raw power by Mother Nature will knock them down.


My sister's house was completely hurricane proof - It burned to the ground! Mine was not and it's destroyed, but still standing. She's not getting any of your tax dollars. I am not either because I have insurance but the payout is woefully inadequate for the damage.

Getting insurance companies to pay for the damages is what the government should be doing - not paying money to stupid people who didn't bother to have insurance. If you want to build on the coast yes you take a risk and should be prepared, but if you pay thousands of dollars to insure your investment - then the insurance companies should be made to pay.

I have to stay where I am because I can't afford to move - I'm not selfish or stupid - just stuck!

And to the OP - the coast of NY/NJ has not had this much damage from a hurricane since the 1930s (even that did not come close to the present destruction). This is not Florida or the Gulf Coast.

I'm a little sick of people who think we deserved what we got! It's not over and very, very many people are homeless and really suffering and need help way more than Cuba and Egypt need our tax dollars.



reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 10:35 PM by pheonix358
Originally posted by Maluhia
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post by pheonix358



When we rebuild, we rebuild the same crap houses made basically of sticks and chalk! Of course the next display of raw power by Mother Nature will knock them down.


My sister's house was completely hurricane proof - It burned to the ground! Mine was not and it's destroyed, but still standing. She's not getting any of your tax dollars. I am not either because I have insurance but the payout is woefully inadequate for the damage.

Getting insurance companies to pay for the damages is what the government should be doing - not paying money to stupid people who didn't bother to have insurance. If you want to build on the coast yes you take a risk and should be prepared, but if you pay thousands of dollars to insure your investment - then the insurance companies should be made to pay.

I have to stay where I am because I can't afford to move - I'm not selfish or stupid - just stuck!

And to the OP - the coast of NY/NJ has not had this much damage from a hurricane since the 1930s (even that did not come close to the present destruction). This is not Florida or the Gulf Coast.

I'm a little sick of people who think we deserved what we got! It's not over and very, very many people are homeless and really suffering and need help way more than Cuba and Egypt need our tax dollars.


In the 2010 floods in SA i lost everything. I have some idea of what people are going through. I feel for them very much.

If your sister's house had been concrete it would not have burned down. I am just saying if you have to build in a hazardous area, then you build better houses. It is a false economy to do otherwise.

It took me two years to get back on my feet properly, hang in there. I know what trapped feels like, it is not a nice place to be.

Best of luck.

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reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 11:18 PM by Maluhia
reply to post by pheonix358


Thanks. What I have learned through this experience is that people who have not been in this situation have no idea how something like this turns real lives upside down. Obviously you do so my apologies for snipping at your post.

It's just frustrating that the individual stories are not being told in the media. And then people are like "well you chose to live on the coast so deal with it!" Like the family of six living in a one bedroom apartment because their home was destroyed and the wife has cancer!

I should not have replied to this thread, but its so disheartening. These are regular, hardworking people, not elitists, not sloths.

Rant in response to rant....ok I'm done now.

p.s. Are you a salesman for concrete built homes? LOL




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reply posted on 4-1-2013 @ 11:44 PM by samlf3rd
reply to post by Maluhia



It doesn't matter if you lived through it, that is part of the point-it doesn't surprise us when it happens-we know you are all going to lose your houses, and our insurance companies will rebuild it. Then they pass the bill to us (okay they spread it out). So move already-just a few miles back is all.

AND JESUS who ever above said "I don't think you can run away from natural disasters-no kidding. Why live within a mile of the ocean front, or directly on top of a fault line>


reply posted on 5-1-2013 @ 12:02 AM by pheonix358
Originally posted by Maluhia
reply to
post by pheonix358


Thanks. What I have learned through this experience is that people who have not been in this situation have no idea how something like this turns real lives upside down. Obviously you do so my apologies for snipping at your post.

It's just frustrating that the individual stories are not being told in the media. And then people are like "well you chose to live on the coast so deal with it!" Like the family of six living in a one bedroom apartment because their home was destroyed and the wife has cancer!

I should not have replied to this thread, but its so disheartening. These are regular, hardworking people, not elitists, not sloths.

Rant in response to rant....ok I'm done now.

p.s. Are you a salesman for concrete built homes? LOL

edit on 4-1-2013 by Maluhia because: (no reason given)


LOL no I am not. But consider. The walls / roof are delivered from a factory ready to go. They get tied in to a concrete slab. They go together like very heavy Lego. The roof is tied to the walls. Earth-berm a few walls and Mother Nature can throw what she wants at you. Sure you may have to repaint, may take a few weeks to dry out etc etc, but your home is still a roof over your head.

In fact a good handy person can make it livable in a very short time. It just does not make sense to build as we have been. The construction method of most houses dates back a couple of hundred years.

I would rather you had to clean up the mess, get new furniture etc rather than the intense delay you will have. Let alone the problems of not having enough trades people to meet the incredible new demand. Since this is the US, many of those tradies will jack their prices up sky high to make insane profits at the expense of the victims.

Where is Karma when you need it!

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