Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Sadly no I didnt, guns and gun deaths are just a part of your culture, one all you gun lovers seem to accept as par for the course
My question was mostly rhetorical. The point I was making is this sudden surge in anti-gun threads --- spurned by the events at Sandy Hook --- is
shallow & redundant. You're doing the same thing the media does; use an isolated tragedy to incite an emotional response. "Oh look what the guns did.
Ban them. And anyone who's pro-gun is an irresponsible mass-murder enabler". To paraphrase that is.
P.S I don't own any firearms, and personally I don't like them. However I know people who do; and I respect them as responsible, law-abiding
individuals. Guns just part of the culture? Yes, that's exactly the case. Guns exist. Telling every gun owner that they're not allowed to own firearms
because it "prevents children from shooting up schools" is utter nonsense.
Every country has hardcore crims with guns but they are hardly ever used on civilians, yes it happens but not as often as you all seem to think it
would. Using guns is bad for business as it attracts police, think about it.
You wont stop criminals getting guns but you can stop schoolchildren getting them
Hardly ever? So you're telling me the majority of gun-related homicides are not a result of criminal activity? I.e beef between gangs, members of
gangs, robbers, cold-blooded killers, etc? I forgot, all those gun deaths are caused by school children & the like...
By the way, tell that to the citizens of Mexico, and even those located in areas near the border. You would be astounded by how many civilians are
tortured & murdered by these criminals. Taking away guns from those trying to live peace is not going to make the situation any better; it'll only
prompt a quicker takeover by the power-hungry.
If you want an example of how firearms can be used to deter the rule of criminals, take a look at the Mormon colonies in northern Mexico and their war
against local cartels.
Absolutely pathetic and sickening you would use that in anyway in this thread
You all see some conspiracy to take away your guns I actually think the opposite, who makes the guns? who makes money from all of you buying guns? The
conspiracy is to make you all so scared that you think you need them
What's "pathetic and sickening" is you using this incident of a child being hit by a falling bullet as a doorway to attack responsible gun owners.
As for conspiracies, you act as if they don't exist. You act as if removing guns from society is going to solve big problems.... Well it's not. It's
not about the guns, but who uses them. And if you're looking for the shining example of where most gun-related deaths come from, look no further than
the war profiteers, mercenaries, gangs/cartels, foreign government militias, brainwashed soldiers, and every other sort that is NOT a non-violent,
responsible gun owner. Perhaps you can figure out a way to take away all firearms from everyone at the same time?
Anyone with common sense would be anti gun anyway.
The fact none of you come out and say you dont like them but feel they are a necessity is very telling. You love your guns and wouldnt give them up
even if you knew youd never need it to fight crime or the gov
The fact you have to use straw man arguments to make a point is very telling. Many of us, including me, don't like firearms. For multiple reasons. So
much death and suffering has been caused by the use of them. At the same time, if you take away the peoples ability to defend themselves with a basic
level of technology -- the same type that is easily accessed by any criminal --- you're making a horrible mistake. Using children as a platform for
your arguments doesn't male it a rational one.
Lastly, your argument would make more sense if we existed in a perfect society, a utopian one. One not under the shadow of impending war, tyranny,
criminal insanity, & such. The U.S gun-per-capita ranking is on a level high above any other country in the world. So comparing our deaths by guns to
countries with an comparably miniscule gun-per-capita isn't logical. Anyway, I hope someday things change.. I really do.
edit on 4-1-2013 by
Raelsatu because: (no reason given)