Why isn't ATS exploding with this info? One People's Trust and the return of Common Law

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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:17 AM
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Huh can't post the link try this but remove gap after http


http ://tinyurl.com/9wepj88




posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Here is a link to the filing PDF's plus loads more info on how we can use these precedents to remove ourselves from any debt to the banks. For a debt to exist a loan has to be proved. They banks can't prove a loan was made, no debt, simple as!! Bring it on ..

http ://tinyurl.com/9wepj88 Remove gap after http

Download these and distribute

Also here is some words from heather ..... :-)


"I AM INSPIRED release of NOW PARADIGM PROTOCOL (evolved from "NEW PARADIGM") for the people, by the people... if Truth IS... "by the people for the people"... then let's test that out, and have some fun DO'ing while we're at it, yes? We ask those who choose to, to co-manifest an opportunity to work/review/discuss/dissect DATA in order to close the OLD PARADIGM and choose what the NOW PARADIGM IS per what resonates within each of us...what resonates as Truth by the knowledge within...(yes, that damn broken record keeps playing on, and on, and on..infinity!)

By DO'ing by free will choice, the energy manifests, creates/co-creates, at the speed of thought, the opportunity to reflect the law of one that resonates with many by the knowledge from within...shall we?

Attached are documents of examples designed based on NOW DATA that the Trustees, Advisors and other we the people collected, willingly and sometimes under duress, through investigations and other matters that have come before us...these are just examples...

...so, whoever would like to take their shoes off and jump in the water with some DO'in so that we can finalize the people's systems as they choose...We would be so grateful for the experience to BE and DO with all of you.

How do we the people use the REGISTERED tools done by the Public Trust, specifically the FORECLOSURE, COMMERCIAL BILL, TRUE BILL in a personal matter? How do we notice a potential predator that they will be held responsible and liable in such a manner that it IS enforced and collectible? How do we secure our property that is being held by someone purporting to be a custodian? How do we establish standing and authority while respectfully, yet firmly, simultaneously requiring those who come before us to identify and verify their standing and authority? How do we cancel the fraud already done?

Well, see the examples we have formulated thus far through moments of PRESENT that have transpired and let's refine them together as one, as we choose, if we so choose! Please don't ask for authorization to post or use...it was granted upon our creation!!!!

We are excited about what we the people can and choose to DO...I wanted all of this to be more organized and definitely more professional in presentation, but I need to get back to the current... I will check back in

with gratitude
in love
unconditionally
always

Heather Ann Tucci-Jarraf
Trustee
253.509.4597"

Happy hunting

Mcsquire



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:34 AM
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Yes I saw those today.

I've been reading them and I think I get it.

Screw up though and you're going to jail. That's the rub. You can't screw up.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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Well I am from the UK so not sure If these precedents will work over here yet. Amazing times ahead though!
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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Bump. Surely this is the biggest news, ever!



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Yep, I agree.

I need to learn what is lost when you claim Sovereignty. For instance, if you don't' have a license, how do you buy beer? Or get in somewhere that wants to see it? Regular folk simply DO NOT get it, not right now. Hell a few days ago I didn't get it. How can you handle cops (which you may be seeing more of if you don't have ID and registration on your car, etc),

How do you get loans, special Sovereign banks? Etc Etc.

Can't wait for the answers, we can set the blueprint with clear direction, obviously we have a few Sovereigns here and that helps!



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 11:49 AM
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OH, and HERE

linxonline.co.pierce.wa.us...

That's the Pierce County civil case docs.

I'll take my $1000 now, kind sir.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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While this is certainly backing towards the legitimate nature of this claim, the case does not currently have any status shown. Neither does it show the "Bar Number", or have a hyperlink next to heathers name, now this most certainly does not mean that its illegitimate, but that the case has either not passed, or is still being processed.

Either that or they are trying to purposely keep this from getting out by not publishing the status/bar-number.

The person in question "thelongjourney" said he needs the judge to state in his ruling that they won when citing "a component of the common law mythology". So you would actually have to find the court documents to prove this claim. He also states that if some one challenges the jurisdiction of the court based on them being an admiralty court, then that also qualifies.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by 007Polytoks
reply to post by fourthmeal
 


While this is certainly backing towards the legitimate nature of this claim, the case does not currently have any status shown. Neither does it show the "Bar Number", or have a hyperlink next to heathers name, now this most certainly does not mean that its illegitimate, but that the case has either not passed, or is still being processed.

Either that or they are trying to purposely keep this from getting out by not publishing the status/bar-number.

The person in question "thelongjourney" said he needs the judge to state in his ruling that they won when citing "a component of the common law mythology". So you would actually have to find the court documents to prove this claim. He also states that if some one challenges the jurisdiction of the court based on them being an admiralty court, then that also qualifies.


She doesn't have a BAR number, she disavowed the BAR when she learned what it meant, being Sovereign and all. It is a BRITISH title of nobility, and therefore not lawful. So, she is a Lawyer, not an Attorney. Incidentally she spoke about this in her interview, not much was put into it but it was mentioned.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal
Yep, I agree.

I need to learn what is lost when you claim Sovereignty. For instance, if you don't' have a license, how do you buy beer? Or get in somewhere that wants to see it? Regular folk simply DO NOT get it, not right now. Hell a few days ago I didn't get it. How can you handle cops (which you may be seeing more of if you don't have ID and registration on your car, etc),

How do you get loans, special Sovereign banks? Etc Etc.

Can't wait for the answers, we can set the blueprint with clear direction, obviously we have a few Sovereigns here and that helps!
Heh, for Sovereign help go here:
sovereignwarriors.ning.com...
I've been a member for a couple years. Handling cops, judges, etc, is all explained. Successes and failures.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by fourthmeal
That is the value as determined by the Birth certificate bond.


Nice story, but it is just not true. The Birth certificate is NOT a bond of any sort, capitalisation of your name means nothing.
You are wrong. Both mean something. I'm not going to argue. It's been proved. I will not supply proof, it's out there. But if you go around and say, "That ain't true", to everything you see and hear, then you'll have nothing. Bye-bye.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal

She doesn't have a BAR number, she disavowed the BAR when she learned what it meant, being Sovereign and all. It is a BRITISH title of nobility, and therefore not lawful.


Now we know it is nonsense, with such a hoax claim being made.

Nothing to see here, just another silly hoax.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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I think hellobruce could now be labeled a disinfo agent. It's not a hoax. I thought it was common knowledge that members of the BAR have an oath to support the bankruptcy, and that they are controlled by the Lawyers Guild of Great Britain. Why the hell do you think that these bastards start squirming in the courtroom when you fire everyone in the courtroom. There's a reason why they want you to have a BAR member re-present you. They are NOT on your side. And when I mention the bankruptcy, I'm talking about the United States Bankruptcy of 1933 and Reconstruction Act. Not a country dude, it's a corporation. Since the bankruptcy, it's now a foreign-owned, bankrupt corporation. Take off the blinders, unless you have been hired to post on sites like this in which case I, for one, will ignore you.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Bildo
It's not a hoax. I thought it was common knowledge that members of the BAR have an oath to support the bankruptcy, and that they are controlled by the Lawyers Guild of Great Britain.


No, that is a well known hoax - care to show any valid website that is not a conspiracy theory site that shows it....


Why the hell do you think that these bastards start squirming in the courtroom when you fire everyone in the courtroom.


now you are just babbling, when has that occurred?


I'm talking about the United States Bankruptcy of 1933


The USA was not bankrupt in 1933, another hoax.

you provide no valid sources, just silly conspiracy theories.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by fourthmeal

She doesn't have a BAR number, she disavowed the BAR when she learned what it meant, being Sovereign and all. It is a BRITISH title of nobility, and therefore not lawful.


Now we know it is nonsense, with such a hoax claim being made.

Nothing to see here, just another silly hoax.


I honor your opinion but you are stating this as fact.

In fact, Heather has 10+ years as an Attorney, and the documents to back up her work here. Other "sources" like Casper or Poof or Drake or anybody else. So far, I'd say she vets out better. Not a hoax. May be something you aren't familiar with (and I'm just now getting in there myself, becoming familiar), but not a hoax.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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Before 1933 all contracts with the government were payable in gold. Now I ask you, who in their right mind would enter into contracts totaling One Hundred billion dollars in gold, when there was only eleven billion in gold in the whole world, and we had about four billion? To keep from being hung by the American public they obeyed the bankers demands and turned over our country to them. They never came out and said we were in bankruptcy but, the fact remains, we are. In 1933 the gold of the whole country had to be turned in to the bankers, and all government contracts in gold were canceled. This is bankruptcy.

www.reddit.com...
The country(land), all US citizens, possessions, children were pledged as collateral by Roosevelt.
This is only one site. The Congressional Address is recorded on MANY sites. This one just happened to be at my fingertips. I pity you hellobruce.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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The following was presented to the House of Representatives on March 17,1993 and is part of the Congressional Record.
Mr. Speaker, we are now in Chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government. We are setting forth, hopefully a blueprint for our future. There are some who say it is a coroners report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. HJR 192, 73rd Congress session of June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution to Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate the Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States governmental offices and departments and is further evidence that the United States Government exists today in name only.

www.angelfire.com...
Lots of info for debunkers.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by Bildo
Lots of info for debunkers.


Why post a fake speech? Actually, no surprise there, everything else they post is also just made up. That "speech" is a hoax. Everything after the first paragraph is just made up. Have a look at the real speech:

www.scribd.com...
also
coupmedia.org...

This is why the whole "freeman"/birth certificate is a bond/capitals in names mean something/the USA is bankrupt etc. nonsense is laughed at everywhere. They have to lie, and the gullible fall for it everytime.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 05:38 PM
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Mr. TRAFICANT. Mr. Speaker, we are here now in chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization of any bankrupt entity in world history, the U.S. Government.
You said only the first paragraph of what I pointed you to was correct, the rest was garbage. Ok,
we'll go with that. I went to the first link you posted. I copy/pasted the first couple lines that YOU LED ME TO.The above is the beginning of it. What do you NOT understand about the above statement. US is in bankruptcy! Has been! You pointed me towards YOUR TRUE INFORMATION. Even if I said that the rest of it was garbage, it doesn't matter. The point is made. Stop your unfounded insults.

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posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by Bildo
What do you NOT understand about the above statement. US is in bankruptcy!


One person made a claim, you also ignore the fact that

In 2002, Traficant was indicted on federal corruption charges for taking campaign funds for personal use. Again, he opted to represent himself, insisting that the trial was part of a vendetta against him dating to his 1983 trial. On April 15, he was convicted of 10 felony counts including bribery, racketeering, and tax evasion. As per House rules, he lost his right to vote on legislation pending an investigation by the House Ethics Committee. On April 12, 2002, after a two-month federal trial, a jury found Traficant guilty of bribery and other charges. He was sentenced to a federal prison, where he served seven years.


So that is the best you can do for a source, a convicted criminal....





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