Why People Like Me Should Have Guns

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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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reply to post by seabag
 
Thank you seabag! I actually did hold someone at gunpoint until the police arrived last year (some nutbag ran into the yard and attacked my husband while we were outside working in the yard). That guy is still in jail. From the looks of the guy last night I'm pretty sure he learned his lesson, and if that didn't do it the police knocking on his door today hopefully will.




posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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I did get his license plate. Police already have his info and are giving him a visit today. Not pressing charges but hopefully he will be "scared straight". Thanks for your reply.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:44 AM
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And I support the 2nd Amendment, but with a few tweaks to it.


Obviously you don’t support it if you want “a few tweaks”.




You didnt need a gun that shot 200 rds a min to do what you did.


It’s not about needs….it’s about rights. The constitution does NOT specify certain acceptable types of arms that citizens can bear. All of these “extra tweaks” are put in place by the anti-gun crowd who is willing to put their trust in law enforcement officers and give up their ability to defend themselves. This is how countries fall…when citizens put all their trust in government and give up their ability to defend themselves.




Im for handguns for home protection, and long guns for hunting.
Everything else is designed for 1 thing, killing humans quickly.


It’s none of your business what guns your neighbor owns. Law abiding citizens were allowed to own machine guns and grenades without license until 1934. The murder rate is higher now than in 1934. Explain that……

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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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But once you let them rob you, many times these days you are now also a witness who is defenseless.

The chances are good that a robber will try to kill you these days because dead men tell no tales.

Have fun in your bliss.

And I do hope that you live a long, happy and peaceable life.
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Is it sensible to assume you have insurance for the shop? This is what insurance is for..... to pay when things get stolen.... this is also what the Police are for.... for dealing with criminals...
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How much is your deductable?.... Mine is $1,000 and most are even higher than that...
So in additon to losing 500-1,000 in tools your going to get your insurance company to do what? Nothing is your answer because it would have all came out of her pocket.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Thank you Dispo! I just want people to understand that just because people like me want to keep guns to protect ourselves and our property (and hunt) does not mean that we all have an itchy trigger finger and are just waiting for the chance to shoot someone. The vast majority of gun owners are highly responsible people rather than the homicidal maniacs that the MSM wants everyone to believe we are.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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I commend your actions OP, and I would defend your right to own firearms do the death. It is every man or woman's right to protect their property, family or livelihood.

There must be a better system, there has to be. Be it electronic, or whatever. Can't weapons just be chipped and linked to the owner somehow? In most cases I agree with the notion that a GP / family doctors opinion could come into play and determine whether someone should be allowed to own weapons. Surely every tax paying, working man should have the right to protect what is his.

And another thing, there is absolutely no need to own high power automatic or semi-automatic weapons, there is no need for them to be sold on the street, unless you're a really, really bad hunter you don't need it. Honestly, if you have a hand gun or shotgun, or even a Sniper rifle, to me that makes perfect sense and if that were the case I believe most of the big events would never have happened. Kids aren't that confident taking on large crowds with weapons they have to stop and load every 2 or 6 rounds.

I wish you well and I hope you are allowed to hang onto the last of your rights.
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
The murder rate is higher now than in 1934. Explain that……
Well hello Seabag, havent seen much of you since that whole "Landslide" thing you promised kinda Fizzled.

As too your 1934 stats, ... I believe , as I bet you do, Its because Society has gone down the drain.
Morals and Values are mere words nowadays. The Pawnbrokers of true Power killed the last Great Pres in 63.
Since then, we have had Sock Puppets more concerned with Re-election, than real Progress.
I could go on , but you will only Twist my words anyway, ..good to see you again.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by knowledgedesired



Is it sensible to assume you have insurance for the shop? This is what insurance is for..... to pay when things get stolen.... this is also what the Police are for.... for dealing with criminals...
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How much is your deductable?.... Mine is $1,000 and most are even higher than that...
So in additon to losing 500-1,000 in tools your going to get your insurance company to do what? Nothing is your answer because it would have all came out of her pocket.



knowledgedesired, you failed to notice what Country that poster lives in. that would be the UK, Oxford. UK. to be exact.
They are conditioned by their Government to believe Only The Government Can Save Them. They are told by their Government, gun owners are Deviants or Crazy people who only want to kill people. ( Not all Believe this way )
You're corrct, insurance would not have covered all the cost, unless you had pictures and an exact inventory of each tool and it's cost new.
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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I'm glad that you have so many material possessions that you can afford to give them away to anybody that wants to come along and take them but most of us do not. And the premiums that I pay for wind and flood damage insurance do not afford me the luxury of insurance for theft. I'm glad you can afford such luxuries. If you choose not to protect your property that's your business, good luck with that.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by 727Sky
 
I did get his license plate. Police already have his info and are giving him a visit today. Not pressing charges but hopefully he will be "scared straight". Thanks for your reply.



Thank you and again congrats on the positive outcome.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by guohua
They are conditioned by their Government to believe Only The Government Can Save Them.
All gun owners are Deviants or Crazy people who only want to kill people. ( Not all Believe this way )


Your post still makes me feel like I should be outraged, even with the disclaimer.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Well hello Seabag, havent seen much of you since that whole "Landslide" thing you promised kinda Fizzled.


Yes, I was a little….uhmm….SORE after Obama was reelected. I thought the country was smarter than that. I was wrong, and that hurt.



As too your 1934 stats, ... I believe , as I bet you do, Its because Society has gone down the drain.

Morals and Values are mere words nowadays. The Pawnbrokers of true Power killed the last Great Pres in 63.

Since then, we have had Sock Puppets more concerned with Re-election, than real Progress.
I could go on , but you will only Twist my words anyway, ..good to see you again.


No twisting….I agree with you. The evidence of this is the reelection of the biggest fraud the country has ever seen. The country is going to hell and Obama and the ultra-loons are driving the bus. Now is certainly not the time to go after the gun ownership of law abiding citizens. If ever there was a time to fight for our rights its NOW! The last thing you’d want to do in the face of tyranny is disarm!!

Good to see you, too.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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Even if the robber was armed she had the drop on him (being surprised by the dog with his arms full of their tools). It comes down to would she be willing and quick enough to pull the trigger if he dropped them and then tried to pull out a gun. Luckily that was not the case and hopefully the young man will do some serious soul searching. Personally I would have held him at gun point and called the police...and he could sit there for 20-30 mins shaking in his boots.
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:26 AM
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The police are trained in dealing with situations like this..... the average citizen is not...


Some of us are trained…..and all of us should be trained.

If you care about the safety of your family then it makes no sense to leave their safety in the hands of total strangers (the police).


This is the point I cannot understand about the gun supporting lot.... if someone came ot rob me, tried to take my wallet or personal belongings... do you know what.. I would let them! It's only money.... only belongings... yeah, it's an annoyance... but I would rather give my stuff up and claim on the insurance than risk my life for a wallet, a car, or some tools....


When you’re UNARMED you really have little choice in the matter!





you do realise that you risked not only yours, but your families lives with your actions.... he may now have a personal vendetta against you rather than the police... and again, you are not trained for dealing with this....


This is true, but she let him go. I think even a criminal has to respect the fact that she didn’t cause him any harm (she didn’t shoot or have him arrested) even though she easily could have.

And the likelihood of this dope coming back when he KNOWS she is armed and unafraid of confrontation is slim - IMO of course




Material posessions are not worth dying for!!! I wish someone would tell America this.....


To the anti-gun crowd there is NOTHING worth dying for….even freedom. I don’t take advice from people who long since gave up their rights and were voluntarily neutered.

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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:38 AM
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I have to agree with you on that seabag. I've been raised my whole life with firearms and trust myself to keep a cool head more than some young "twenty-something" police officer fresh out of the academy who may have never used a gun anywhere but on a firing range. Several months ago a "rookie" harassed the wrong guy and got a broken jaw for his trouble in my town. Not so sure I'd trust that particular cop to save my life in a pinch.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 11:59 AM
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I have to agree with you on that seabag. I've been raised my whole life with firearms and trust myself to keep a cool head more than some young "twenty-something" police officer fresh out of the academy who may have never used a gun anywhere but on a firing range. Several months ago a "rookie" harassed the wrong guy and got a broken jaw for his trouble in my town. Not so sure I'd trust that particular cop to save my life in a pinch.


For the record, I have faith in the ability and judgment of MOST police officers. I have family and friends in LE. However, as in your case, the response time in most rural areas (which I assume you live…as do I) is very slow. Criminals KNOW THIS, which is one factor in why you were targeted! Also, I trust police but certainly not as much as I trust myself. Nobody in this word is as ready and willing to DIE in the protection of my life and the lives of my immediate family than ME….that’s a fact.

People need to be more self-reliant and a little less trusting….especially when it comes to their own safety.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by Dispo

Originally posted by guohua
They are conditioned by their Government to believe Only The Government Can Save Them.
All gun owners are Deviants or Crazy people who only want to kill people. ( Not all Believe this way )


Your post still makes me feel like I should be outraged, even with the disclaimer.


Maybe you should feel outrage.
I hope you feel this outrage toward the Sheeple of your Country that allows this to continue.
We've know of more than just a few of your citizens that feel like they've been Castrated and made easy victims.
The people who stared you evidently like being kept helpless and dependent on a faceless stranger to save them from all harm.
As long as you use good judgement, like the OP did and needlessly take a life, you have nothing to fear from your local police.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't your local police mostly unarmed?

I would not like to depend on an stranger to arrive and be the protector of my family or property.
Sorry, didn't want you to feel badly about living in the UK, but like I said, Not all of the people in your part of the world feel that way about gun ownership.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 12:07 PM
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Protip: I'm fully behind the OP on this one.

I just resent your accusation that we're conditioned to rely on the government to save us.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 12:21 PM
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Your 30-30 is a probably a lever action Id imagine which would allow 5 or so quick rounds to solve your problem,I have no problems with either lever,pump or bolt action rifles in civilian hands.

30 round plus semi automatics and 10mm semi auto pistols with 16 round magazines are a different issue these should not be in the hands of civilians,in my country they aren't.

The problem in the US is even if you ban the sale of such weapons there are already millions in circulation you'd have to have the mother of all buyback schemes to effectively reduce their numbers,no such proposal would ever pass a Republican Congress so expect severe ammunition rationing instead especially in 5.56 and 7.62mm.





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