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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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First off, This ran on a little longer than intended, but it's like a year and a half of thoughts in a post .

Here, On ATS, I see A wide range of voices. From the sarcastic guy trying to one up the people he knows with the things he knows about the world, all the way to the Classic "Obama is the Anti-Christ" guy, And the question I can't seem to get past is Why do we care so much? We all know our personal truths and the truths of reality around us and aren't the two main things you need to manifest your own life, which as we all know, is what we do for ourselves? You make your life by the things you say, read, think.



“Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habit. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny.” - Sam Keen


I'm on this site everyday, and i'm starting to feel like opinions have clouded this news source. What happened to the guy doing the ATS RECAPS? We have so much potential to be something ATS, but our denying ignorance wasn't good for the long run, because after all, isn't truth a perception of a perspective?

2012?? C'mon, get REAL, like really real. Reality can't end, so why would everything end? I saw Dec 21st 2012 as a real date, and a real prophecy, and everything we have learned thus far in the "long"(HAHAHA it's like a smudge on the back of the picture on god's nightstand) history of humans, has kinda told us that when 2012 comes around, we are gonna think we right, but be wrong. Hence, end of the world as we know it. I mean, In reality, It takes thousands of years for evolution to happen, and in thousands of years, humans havent changes much, and we have always been like this as far back as we have recorded. We could have evolved or have been created, but I feel like that defeats the real argument. What Happen's if we aren't human? I think it is our main question.

History has an interesting way of helping my point. So everything(books, songs, movies, etc,) from historical stand point, is kind of like telling ourselves how we are gonna tell future generations what we learned. Asia had a religious crisis, and out came the Yin-Yang. I think we should pay attention to that for a moment because in revelations of the King James version at least, says that Asia is Safe during end time. Or the time of Democracy in Greece and decided whether to serve god or ourselves. Apparently, we chose ourselves, because we wrote gods in our books to be like us, when we aren't even supposed to give HIM a face, seems worse to give more gods that may or may not exist more power over us, than the creator himself. Not trying to deface anything at all, just saying that we have made some pretty Dumb(voiceless) decisions, like ignoring history, or re-writing the word of God, or lieing on a Global Scale (Cough cough U.N./U.S.)

Now, for our time period, Battleship, Halo 4, red dawn, rise of the gaurdians. 4 very different genres of stories, but historically standing, what would us smart humans be telling ourselves? Couldn't be the book of Revelations told in different ways. Oh wait, that is exactly what they are.

The True Final Frontier is our mind, not space. Richard Orwell's 1984. There is an evil already on this earth, It's just us. Our minds. Seems like we got two ways to go ultimately. The Good way or the Bad way. This, is my hesitant lifting of the veil, and do I hope you all understand this as I do. There is no White Magic or Black Magic, Just Your magic, how do you do?

Like "Grandfather Tells"


An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life. "A fight is going on inside me," he said to the boy. "It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego." He continued, "The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. The same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too." The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather, "Which wolf will win?" The old Cherokee simply replied, "The one you feed."


So what if we weren't Human? Is that Even Possible?
We'll they used to call the soul, Anima. That looks Familiar to Animal, or Animate. Anima means movement. But in the Garden of Eden, we ate the forbidden apple and we gained the knowledge of the gods, the knowledge of right and wrong. The forbidden Fruit is the only difference between animals and us. Yet we try to act like them and revert to what we know to make our decisions.

Now there are many way to interpret Anima, but the way I feel the were trying to portray the soul, or concept of the soul. is the movement behind our movement. Animal in the cage? Beast within? I know these are long stretches of correlation, but everything happens for a reason. There's not a time in time that won't be important to time, because that time, previously stated to be the unimportant time, is a part of the total time, and time wouldnt be time without all the pieces. Haha So everything happens for a reason.

2012
There's an evil.
The veil between physical and spiritual (Soneca Indians) will be lifted.

My interpretation of an evil being here is first classifying what an evil is. You google define it and get "Noun
Profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, esp. when regarded as a supernatural force." So especially when talking about ANYTHING supernatural, it's going to get connotated to evil. But if you don't agree with a supernatural force, you will almost immediately define them as Evil. It's just a-big-hold-your-hand-over-the-fire-the longest-game, and America has gotten so dumbed down that it kinda forgot it had its hand over the fire. "They're the bad guy, he's a theif, etc" When they are just trying to say "eh, he did bad", but blow it up to TERRORISTS/ HACKTIVISTS. Haha Off topic- Anonymous takes out legit porn rings and porn sites, helps a rape victim get back at her shuvinist teacher, and exposed fraud multiple time, just for them to get ignored and called terrorist hacktivist and put the leader in jail for doing what the world considers right? Hahaha Hoookkkkk

And we will learn the movement of movement. What causes the movement of our movements?
The Points in which we realize,(which is what conciousness is. Realization, or sum of the whole) is when we change, or realize. The global Consciousness was supposed to raise during this apocalypse(Latin for Revelation, which is the metamorphosis from Unmanifest to Manifest. (Uncreated to Created)) And I would say that I have no doubt that we are trying to change the way we see things. But in order for conciousness to work like that, you have to have a time to reflect, a time to see what was, become what is, and time to see what will come from what is and how we get there obeying the universe, not trying to make the universe conform to Einsteins Special Relativity. They said we would all kinda reflect in our own ways 2012 But Take your hand out of the fire before you call the fire Evil, And make sure you aren't the kettle calling the pot black.

Can we be Not Human? Nothing can be not human, Because We are made in the image of God. The physical Image? NO! Literary Imagery. We are alike, The Big One and Us. Just he thinks for all of us. Words, are human. Technology, is human. Earth Is Animal.

To clarify, there is not a main point, I'd just like to engage the ATS'ers with a discussion in which would lead to an answer. Instead of Pointless threads showing another piece of news so someone can flag or star it so It MIGHT make it to the highest rated. The answer being whatever you feel. I don't remember asking you questions, But I want your answers! nom nom nom knowledge
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 06:37 AM
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But overall, It's a little worrying when people are getting to afraid to say their opinions. Who would comment on Something they know nothing about? That's why people actually listen to you when you insult their post. Or comment on something if you wish to learn about it. We have ample communication on this site, But more Could help bring the hard to label, Labels, that we all are, together into more organized and coherent groups of interest, or main points of interest of a group.

I'm not a big poster here on ATS, but boy, I read like every thread. XD And some people are really gullible. Just thought I'd say it.

But as my fellow ATS'ers, I ask what next? We have the ability to search at the top of the screen for electric charging plasma powered ionizing bottles or something a long those line. I think I made a cooler title just now. XD But anyway, We can all make one, and do all these things, But how do we show our superiority by contradicting status quo?



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 06:51 AM
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I am not really sure what you´re trying to say here. But I just wanted to mention that evolution works more over millions of years than thousands. We are a very, very young species in evolutionary terms. Expecting changes within our short lifespan would be unrealistic.

I really tried, but I can´t really grasp the bullet points of most of the rest of your post.

Could you try to summarize it a bit?



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:05 AM
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It was more of a generalization. I'm aware that evolution would work better over a more prolonged period of time, but i don't have enough made up number to make up years for What i was hinting at. Basically, we are copying the book of revelations into video games and movies, Discrediting history, then laying a whole new history on our sheeple by Giving them a new history to live in a lifetime with mixed feeling and such. Totall Recall is a new movie that has already been made, so why remake it the year the veil is supposed to lift, unless you didn't get the point across well enough with Arnold schwartzasomthing. I'm sorry. I was born a ramblin' man. XD I think we all get a little lost reading someone else posts.
I guess, The canadian post My Dear American Friends gave me the courage to give my residential opinion about the state of affairs and how weve been lied to since the get go. And basically, The Apocalypse is Happening, If you know what the words you were saying meant. Mayans World ended, yet Mayans are Alive. When we Nuked Japan, I bet we changed the world As Japan knew it when we radiated their people into color change. I dont really have one point as much as I'd like to just discuss what i had talked about.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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And it wasn't so much points and my way of putting thoughts under a magnifying glass and shredding the semantics of who, what, when, where, and Definately Why. Gotta ask that one. Maybe its not what Im saying, but how youre reading what you think i'm trying to say.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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Your observations are accurate i wonder why not many people replying.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:23 AM
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Thank you! You think so? That's awesome, but wait until trolls get a hold of it.
( Haha
Why do you think it's accurate though?
You did say observations, Is that the word you would like to continue using for what I consider real?
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:27 AM
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There is some good points there. My friend and I were just talking about this yesterday. Seems to be coming to the forefront more, these past several days.

I love those quotes also, tried to keep those in mind since I have heard them, good guides for living amongst others.

Grim



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:35 AM
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I think you wish for a unity, I'm sorry but I think it will never happen.
We live in a "dipole world"...
No shadow without light, no light without darkness

good or bad is just a point of view. Non of any action taken is good or bad without judgement.

Going away from your "God's World" is not evil !! It is just looking for more information rather than believing in something just because we don't know... yet... it is progress !!

about your thoughts on US... don't want to talk about this !




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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Mythfury
reply to post by AthlonSavage
 


Thank you! You think so? That's awesome, but wait until trolls get a hold of it.
( Haha
Why do you think it's accurate though?
You did say observations, Is that the word you would like to continue using for what I consider real?
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and here we go...
other people thoughts, if they don't reply to yours are making them trolls... LOL




posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:40 AM
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The only person I really talk to about this stuff is My Girlfriend/wife(Don't plan on breaking up), and that's if she's even wanting to listen. But more and more, I have been noticing people have been engaged this apparent worldwide psychic awakening. I mean, I trained my eyes to see full color Auras in 3 months of hardcore sitting there staring at a wall, and im 19, and DNA Mapping and self-healing is not Mumbo Jumbo. You can heal yourself by feeling like you are fine. Done those three things already, but psychic? What do you think? So imagine what the rest of the world will do. Ive been told about a process of learning in which you gain psychic abilities, an I do believe It is a bhudda practice of the 7 cogs or steps to divination. So how do we get that bhuddist principle of Life, not religion, over to the U.S. And the collapsing countries who seem like they really need daddy's help. America's just a young girl trying to get back a dadyy. XD jkkk But whatcha think?



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:46 AM
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Yeah, Duality has such a hold on us. And I've been contemplating the place of the dark in place of light. Many people get caught in a web of lies, not their own, but just in any web, And freak out and just dont know how to react. That's the dark in the light. That's Called Corruption. A light in the darkness is called blinding. Either way. It's the intent.
Now, I will disagree with You saying light will have dark. The Yin yang. Black, White, And the line that divides them. And the little bit of white in the dark side. Vice versa. If it were all grey. Then I would see the blending, But I see Confusus saying black is black and white is white. Thoughts on the U.S.? Don't gotta get back to me on that, The silence agrees enough.
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posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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good or bad is actually much more than just a point of view. If You and I were to stand on opposite sides of a building. Point of view is different, But whether that building is good or bad can't be determined on just point of view. Our intentions would be way more important when it comes to deciding good or bad. Point of view can't be changed, you just change your point of view. And i'm trying it a different way. We try to prove everything is disproving religion, Im trying to prove science with religion, using literary techniques and the development of the Human Psyche in a social and sentient environment. God's World?? Better than ours, so at least im trying for that instead of a one without a solid truth. More planets, more races, more colors, more objects, We can't maintian anything more than A country. Not yet, at least. good or bad is just a point of view. Non of any action taken is good or bad without judgement. I guess you didnt see That I said there is no black or white magic, just your magic. Basically what you said, but intention dictates point of view.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:12 AM
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Well I like your thread.
Young fellah, you have the gift of the gab


I understand what your getting at, and it's a bit like....( and please remember, I said only a bit
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"okay...........I know, and you know, you crapped your pants, I can smell it, you can smell it, but can we just pleeeeaaaase move on from the obvious nostril burning stink. (just for a minute) and get to the nitty gritty, what can be done?...........don't worry, you can wash later."

I know and you know they have no idea, any more than you do, or I do. It probably wont stop them from fracking the lot to prove a point just to themselves, which inevitably ends in nothing...........for them.
so...........
Keep doing what you are doing, you have brilliant energy Op.

(Athlon! that response was pathetic, man, what is wrong with you? Jump on that plane and claim thy fair maiden already! A muse to your verbal constipation perhaps? Much love but, AussieA)

Great thread man x



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by Mythfury
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good or bad is actually much more than just a point of view. If You and I were to stand on opposite sides of a building. Point of view is different, But whether that building is good or bad can't be determined on just point of view. Our intentions would be way more important when it comes to deciding good or bad. Point of view can't be changed, you just change your point of view. And i'm trying it a different way. We try to prove everything is disproving religion, Im trying to prove science with religion, using literary techniques and the development of the Human Psyche in a social and sentient environment. God's World?? Better than ours, so at least im trying for that instead of a one without a solid truth. More planets, more races, more colors, more objects, We can't maintian anything more than A country. Not yet, at least. good or bad is just a point of view. Non of any action taken is good or bad without judgement. I guess you didnt see That I said there is no black or white magic, just your magic. Basically what you said, but intention dictates point of view.



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by Mythfury
reply to post by KrzYma
 


good or bad is actually much more than just a point of view. If You and I were to stand on opposite sides of a building. Point of view is different, But whether that building is good or bad can't be determined on just point of view. Our intentions would be way more important when it comes to deciding good or bad. Point of view can't be changed, you just change your point of view. And i'm trying it a different way. We try to prove everything is disproving religion, Im trying to prove science with religion, using literary techniques and the development of the Human Psyche in a social and sentient environment. God's World?? Better than ours, so at least im trying for that instead of a one without a solid truth. More planets, more races, more colors, more objects, We can't maintian anything more than A country. Not yet, at least. good or bad is just a point of view. Non of any action taken is good or bad without judgement. I guess you didnt see That I said there is no black or white magic, just your magic. Basically what you said, but intention dictates point of view.


OK, I see I've explained myself in way to short words..

so tell me, is Gravity good or bad ?



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:50 AM
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Yes. I would agree with your way. We need some new pants On the human race. And just forgive all the wrongs we have done, and we'll forgive you. The daily prayer. XD And Thank you! The ATS Stuff. If we were to get More organized groups of Above Top Secret Subjects, we could Have A group of let's say, Particle Physicists named TheGrandQuark frequented ATS can could answer with their professional or inspired answer giving their knowledge and if anyone had particle physics questions. You'd ask that group. Does that seem Feasible? or at least worth attempting for a change?



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 08:58 AM
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Bad, if you implode under too much, or fall a part without enough. And Why would You ask if gravity is good or bad? I think Gravity is too big of a substance for me to decide if the universe is still expanding(good Gravity) or about to crunch back in(bad Gravity). I could argue either way, but i don't think it's whether its good or not. But Why is it there. Why do we have to be held down in a certain atomical order and it just so happened that oxygen is right next to us in the order, and we need oxygen. Law of Attraction. I'm not sure if That answered your question, but I hope it helps you not ask such a rhetorical (Unanswerable) question



posted on Jan, 4 2013 @ 06:47 PM
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Hi,interesting thread.
I see u are quite a researcher . I keep thinking about similar things lately. Focusing on inner working of my mind i apricciate u mention the APPLE - linking it with good and bad. Separating.


But in the Garden of Eden, we ate the forbidden apple and we gained the knowledge of the gods, the knowledge of right and wrong. The forbidden Fruit is the only difference between animals and us. Yet we try to act like them and revert to what we know to make our decisions.

I have red this somewhere:


In the garden of eden there is Tree of the knowledge of good and evil and the Tree of life. We tasted the fruit from the Tree of good and evil and we continue to eat it, but our goal now is to start eating the fruit from the Tree of life
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So it seems to me that this apple enables the reasoning procces of the mind - separating good x bad - choosing.
But is/can lead us away from the truth which is the core... God.

Reason is proccess that is imho taking over most of our mind, letting there be very tiny space for feeling of the heart. That being the downside - cos heart is much more direct tool for interaction. Reason is very tricky, it leads us to believe things about selfs and others that can be completely virtual, it wont stop chattering, it creates and empowers ego.. and one is usually not aware of reason being working, being behind all his mind, behind his own interpretation of reality...... which may be far far away from real things.

When I observe my mind iam becoming to see that. And if am awaken and see where my mind is trying to lead me I know that its just thought proccess .. that is slowly reshaping my perception of reality and starts to drag me down. When i notice that I stop thinking. Then there is present and that is never so bad


if anyone is interested i recommend this video about above mentioned "problem"

it connects mind, time and movement and our perception of it.

And to ask wheather gravity is GOOD or BAD, is great way to overheat my mind. Gravity IS.. thats enough for me


so keep on researching!
bye
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posted on Jan, 6 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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