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posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 09:54 PM
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Cool, staying below their radar avoids alot of hassles. I did everything I did out of necessity.




posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:44 PM
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I'm hardly flying "below the radar" as you put it. I am just satisfied with less. That in fact can put me on their "radar" because I am not a "productive member of society". Read that making them money.

But hey, it doesn't help to be exposed either. You could delete that last post and I would be grateful...



posted on Jan, 8 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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hrmm i missed the vids then i really want to know how to do this ill have to go back and check for them, is this like turning yourself into an LLC?



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:06 PM
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Let me know how to delete it and I will.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by ~widowmaker~
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hrmm i missed the vids then i really want to know how to do this ill have to go back and check for them, is this like turning yourself into an LLC?
No. LLC is Limited Liability. An SPC has full commercial liability. We are 100% liable for everything we do.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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Too late. You didn't get my message soon enough. Its all good.

FYI, theres an erase window of 4 hours I believe. Just to delete the text, not the post _



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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Ok, sorry about that. I need to watch what is said when everything is thrown out to the whole world.



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 06:18 PM
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Dear ATSers,

I had left the thread, but my conscience is getting the better of me. I'm not trying to argue or persuade, as I say, I'm writing this so my conscience will let me sleep tonight.

I have all the paperwork on my walls, and letters after my name, to let me know that at least one university thinks I am capable of reading statutes and interpreting case law.

Please do not accept as accurate the positions Bildo is presenting. At least, go to some lawyers and hear their positions on the matter. Many will give you a free half-hour consultation. Listen to them, then make up your mind.

The Courts have always held that neither the fringe on the flag, nor the punctuation or capitalization of your name have any bearing at all on anything.

Step back and look at it logically. If you could send in three letters and end all tax liability forever, wouldn't lawyers be telling their clients to do that? After all, the claims have been posted on the net and are available for every lawyer to see. Not only can any lawyer see them, any IRS agent can, too. If there has been a huge hole in tax law for years, wouldn't there have been legislation or Decision letters to plug it up?

Anyway, believe as you will. If your case is big enough and gets to federal courts be sure to write us with your new address, if the warden allows you internet privleges.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Jan, 9 2013 @ 07:29 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
Dear ATSers,

I had left the thread, but my conscience is getting the better of me. I'm not trying to argue or persuade, as I say, I'm writing this so my conscience will let me sleep tonight.

I have all the paperwork on my walls, and letters after my name, to let me know that at least one university thinks I am capable of reading statutes and interpreting case law.

Please do not accept as accurate the positions Bildo is presenting. At least, go to some lawyers and hear their positions on the matter. Many will give you a free half-hour consultation. Listen to them, then make up your mind.

The Courts have always held that neither the fringe on the flag, nor the punctuation or capitalization of your name have any bearing at all on anything.

Step back and look at it logically. If you could send in three letters and end all tax liability forever, wouldn't lawyers be telling their clients to do that? After all, the claims have been posted on the net and are available for every lawyer to see. Not only can any lawyer see them, any IRS agent can, too. If there has been a huge hole in tax law for years, wouldn't there have been legislation or Decision letters to plug it up?

Anyway, believe as you will. If your case is big enough and gets to federal courts be sure to write us with your new address, if the warden allows you internet privleges.

With respect,
Charles1952
You trust lawyers? Heh. People, do your research on who and what a member of the BAR is. It's out there. You are, for the most part, intelligent enough to use discernment.

If the Public Trustees in my area don't stop violating their oath, it will be me taking them into Federal Court citing Title 42 at a minimum..

You brought up the IRS. We've been in contact. That was a few years ago and the matter was settled.

The Directorate of Human Resources, at my employer, not a tiny company, they're global, without me saying anything at all, said I was tax exempt. These are "educated professionals". They knew what that document is for. My bank, which is a Federal Reserve Branch Bank, knows what that document is for. I'm talking about the UCC-1 Financing Statement. That's basic. And, no, this is not a "hole in tax law". I've looked at the IRC. It states quite clearly who is liable for income tax, and what the definition of "income" is.

The Supreme Court has also ruled that are are 3 United States. Which one are you in or part of?

But, if you don't "know who you are", yes, you'll be going to jail. Human warehousing. They profit well through that. That's another subject. Corrections Corporation of America. CCA.

You have wall papers, Ok, you can help me out with this. In Black's Law Dictionary 8th Edition,, under account, closed account, pg 19, it says, " closed account. An account.....that remains open for adjustment or setoff". Can you explain away this definition? Setoff is part of what "we" do.This is part of the bankrupycy and other stuff I've been mentioning. Members of the BAR and other assorted Public Trustees, do not want you to have this type of information that I speak of. They try like hell to discredit us. Research all this for yourselves, and use discernment.
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posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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Here's a comment that did not come from me, so you can't attack me. Very well written. Lots of info. You don't have to believe any of it if you don't want to. Your decision.

The Congress serves in dual capacity in two jurisdictions, even though anyone studying the record of the House since the end of the Civil War, would never know it. The House was usurped under the Reconstruction Acts of 1865 - 1868. Reconstruction never terminated and remains in effect, even though ´´reconstruction´´ eventually led to the creation of the DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA (a corporate municipality), a new ´´federal´´ Constitution (of) the UNITED STATES, and all less incorporated ´´agencies and instrumentalities´´ of the Congress and Executive offices. Once the Fed Res Bank System was brought on line, fiat ´´money´´ to replace lawful money under new ´´law form´´ of admiralty - commercial - maritime law, the new sovereign ´´nation - state´´ called THE UNITED STATES was bankrupt and insolvent by the end of the late 1920´s. FDR came into office and prosecuted - executed the necessary mandate of ´federal bankruptcy´ in international Law of Nations. Everything since then, has been the CORPORATION operating under ´´reorganization´´ in international bankruptcy. Every ´´office´´ of the alleged (de facto) ´´government´´ has been bi-furcated into separate - distinct sub-corporations. Some are not even owned by the de facto government, ie. Social Security Administration (owned by the British Monarchy). All of this is supposed to cease with the termination of the third international bankruptcy of the American Republic, despite its most recent form of having been - become incorporated in 1871, by virtue of the First Organic Act. This Act itself was the product of a militarized House and Senate under standing rules and provisions of the Lieber Code (martial law) invoked by then President Lincoln in 1863 (me thinks). Once Lincoln was eliminated, the stage was set to substitute the original 13th Amendment post Civil War under perpetual occupation and perpetual reconstruction - reformation - reorganization, amongst many other structural changes,in what was to become the new UNITED STATES OF AMERICA....not a People´s Republic whatsoever, but a quasi private - public CORPORATION operated for the sole benefit of the Creditor(s)-in-bankruptcy over the Debtor-in-bankruptcy (the United States of America - THE UNITED STATES - THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA). Boehner must have his hands tied, and his jaws must be aching if he is now the official spokes person in fact for the Republic, which hypothetically is being ´´reinstated´´ with full international standing, rights, and monetary system, assuming that all previous bankruptcy ´´businesss´´ has been forever and finally ´´settled´´. Boehner may not like it, but he may also not have ANY choice, but to do the right thing and facilitate full reinstatement.
Obama is only the fictional presidential appointee of the CORPORATE UNITED STATES - UNITED STATES OF AMERICA limited in scope and venue, to the ten square mile of the DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA, not the lands and peoples of the ´´orginal jurisdiction´´ of the landed several ´´states´´ (republics all). How the CORPORATION plays out in the future with re: the reinstated Republic, remains to be seen, but is is possible the Organic Acts that created the District, aka, THE UNITED STATES, could be rescinded or revoked, thus causing the dissolution of the ´´sovereign´´ de facto city - state.

Notice the change with the 13th Ammendment.



posted on Jan, 10 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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~widowmaker~
I'd like to send you a pdf I just got done reading. I received it this morning.
The UCC stuff is good but it probably isn't as powerful, and as simple, as this is. Watch Dean Clifford first.
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